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by droogiefret
Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:24 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Any ideas on Carlos Castaneda?
Replies: 44
Views: 4201

Re: Any ideas on Carlos Castaneda?

I actually studied Castaneda's Don Juan books as part of my Religious Studies degree in the mid-70s. Imagine just reading what you'd be reading anyway and getting a degree for it! Easy times. But what I really wanted to comment on was the effect the book you read had on you. Books are interesting. C...
by droogiefret
Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:22 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Toxic Masculinity: The New Standard
Replies: 22
Views: 1377

Re: Toxic Masculinity: The New Standard

A short history of circumcision in the US https://metapress.com/the-history-of-circumcision-in-america/ . Basically it began as a religious practice and later morphed into a hygiene practice. Now it's all about the money. There is certainly a view that there is a cultural bias towards circumcision ...
by droogiefret
Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:40 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

Agree, the word has been co-opted. This is the Merriam-Webster definition (bold is mine): Transgender - adjective trans·​gen·​der | \ tran(t)s-ˈjen-dər tranz- \ Definition of transgender : of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity differs from the sex the person had or was identified...
by droogiefret
Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:32 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

I think it's pretty hard to compare what I am talking about here (specifically a very small section of people identifying as gender fluid etc. and think that we simply shouldn't have a gender binary) and the gay rights movement, they appear to me to have chosen a very different tack in terms of act...
by droogiefret
Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:30 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

Here is some light reading: https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev-neuro-061010-113654 https://benthamopen.com/ABSTRACT/TOANATJ-2-37 https://www.nature.com/articles/nrn1494 https://www.transgenderpulse.com/forums/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=13256&key=f9d901...
by droogiefret
Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:51 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

I will see if I can find a few links to the science. I don't know how lay-accessible it will be, since it is mostly current research, but I'll do what I can. It won't be until later in the day, though. Here is some light reading: https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev-neuro-061010-11...
by droogiefret
Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:22 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

Rather it seeks to destabilize categories like gender in order to undermine the oppressive status quo (straight white male). Based on postmodernism but not strictly postmodern because no "ideology" can be postmodern. You just said that you don't understand it, yet you're not a fan? Well y...
by droogiefret
Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:06 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

There is a strong biological component, check the study linked in my previous post. That is not to say that social conditioning doesn't also play a role, but evidence is now accepted in the scientific community that hormonal influences are a factor in gender identity formation. Much additional rese...
by droogiefret
Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:42 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

That makes no sense whatsoever. What exactly is the difference between gender and gender identity in this context? There is an argument that that the various aspects are deliberately difficult to understand as a cohesive whole. Something to do with post-modernism I think - though I am not a philoso...
by droogiefret
Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:58 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

I detect no tactics on this thread - nor any attempts to obfuscate. You do? The fact that everyone wants to talk about "gender ideology" and no one is interested in understanding the experience of gender is in itself obfuscating. Gender ideology is more a creation of its opponents than of...
by droogiefret
Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:41 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

I am not a gender identity ideology fan. I did, however, want people's opinions on the gender identity aspect. Were people's sense of self gendered and was this true for everyone? I am now fairly confident that the sense of self is not necessarily gendered - it could be and clearly is for some. Gen...
by droogiefret
Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:15 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

That makes no sense whatsoever. What exactly is the difference between gender and gender identity in this context? "Gender", strictly speaking, is an abstract concept. It refers to the spectrum that has male at one end, female at the other, and intermediate states in the middle. The word ...
by droogiefret
Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:58 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

Sexual identity, gender identity, or a general sense of self can be distinguished. I would think a navel-gazing Buddhist might be more inclined than most to such granularity about self-hood and identity. Anyway, I think Gender Identity Theory holds that gender is largely a social construct, and tha...
by droogiefret
Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:31 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

Gender Identity Ideology assumes that we all, everyone of us, have a deeply felt innate sense of our own gender. But I don't - I am confident that my own sense of self is devoid of gender. And this is not because I am 'CIS male' - if I were to wake tomorrow with a female body I am pretty certain my...
by droogiefret
Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:35 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

Thank you all for taking the time and trouble to respond. I think I have enough food for thought for now.

Many, many thanks - I will no doubt be back to pester you all again on this or some other topic.
by droogiefret
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:45 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

While gender identity is a specific topic, I think it can also be regarded within the context of identity in general. And “identity” in general of course relates to self-grasping, ego, all of which are specifically buddhist concerns. So, it’s probably useful to be clear about how is addressing the ...
by droogiefret
Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:37 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

At the same time, as a Buddhist, you wouldn't encourage me to believe in an inner state I cannot possibly verify for myself would you? Gender dysphoria is patently real. But gender identity sounds more like a state that can arise, rather than a universal condition that everyone has all the time. I ...
by droogiefret
Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:58 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

Everyone has an innate sense of self, in the sense of samsaric beings being “innately” ignorant of reality..we have it from birth, and from the Buddhist view, before. The point is to become aware of the fact that it is not real in the way we assume it is. “Self image” is ephemeral and changes throu...
by droogiefret
Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:38 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

Everyone has an innate sense of self, in the sense of samsaric beings being “innately” ignorant of reality..we have it from birth, and from the Buddhist view, before. The point is to become aware of the fact that it is not real in the way we assume it is. “Self image” is ephemeral and changes throu...
by droogiefret
Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:29 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Innate sense of self and gender identity
Replies: 119
Views: 6402

Re: Innate sense of self and gender identity

Gender Identity Ideology assumes that we all, everyone of us, have a deeply felt innate sense of our own gender. But I don't - I am confident that my own sense of self is devoid of gender. And this is not because I am 'CIS male' - if I were to wake tomorrow with a female body I am pretty certain my...

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