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- Wed May 29, 2013 5:34 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
If HHDL took refuge in a non-Buddhist tradition he would break his refuge vows. He would never do that therefore, modern Bon is Buddhist enough is be a refuge for Buddhists. That would only be true if all Buddhists were the same as His Holiness. Either Trisong Detsen, Shantarakshita, Padmasambhava,...
- Wed May 29, 2013 4:53 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
...Dalai Lama states that it's Buddhist enough to take refuge in... Please post a copy of this statement. ...non-Buddhist was the original shamanist Bon, which of course breaks your refuge vow... '...Given the lack of written resources on the Bon tradition from pre-Buddhist Tibet and the clear and ...
- Wed May 29, 2013 3:51 am
- Forum: Lounge
- Topic: Monarchy vs Democracy
- Replies: 155
- Views: 29870
Re: Monarchy vs Democracy
Feudal societies had markets and value, and tribal societies engage in trade and evaluation. ''...When you mention the idea of anarchy to most people they will tell you what a bad idea it is because the biggest gang would just take over. Which is pretty much how I see contemporary society. We live ...
- Wed May 29, 2013 3:01 am
- Forum: Lounge
- Topic: Buddhism and hauntings
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1514
Re: Buddhism and hauntings
Unfortunately Kaji's advice is incorrect.
Such practices are only for monks and other professionals.
It might be better to discuss this matter with your teacher.
http://sacred-songs.blogspot.co.uk/2007/06/metta.html
Such practices are only for monks and other professionals.
It might be better to discuss this matter with your teacher.
http://sacred-songs.blogspot.co.uk/2007/06/metta.html
- Wed May 29, 2013 1:13 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
Well, my references are Dan Martin, Henk Blezer, Samten Karmay, Charles Ramble, Jean-Luc Achard and a few others. They are leading scholars in Bon studies Apart from Samten Karmay, who supports Per Kvaerne's view, I've never heard of any of these scholars, except Charles Ramble. It makes no sense t...
- Sat May 25, 2013 9:27 pm
- Forum: Lounge
- Topic: Who owns the Dharma?
- Replies: 88
- Views: 18335
Re: Who owns the Dharma?
Just include an attribution and an appropriate disclaimer.Leo Rivers wrote:The DVD industry is founded on prosecuting "multiplication" of copies as a loss of future income. Aren't translations like this?
What are these 'tactics'?Tom wrote:...four medical tantras. Tactics to maximize payment...
- Sat May 25, 2013 6:43 pm
- Forum: Lounge
- Topic: Who owns the Dharma?
- Replies: 88
- Views: 18335
Re: Who owns the Dharma?
Imagine a doctor who spends his/her entire life researching cures for illnesses and then, based on the prevailing idea of the time that medicine should be independent of market dynamics, gives them away for free. Now, this person has no other source of income and the research and development of the...
- Wed May 22, 2013 9:53 am
- Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
- Topic: Buddhas of the past
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3505
Re: Buddhas of the past
In due time the fifth will be Maitreya. There are also said to be a couple of Great Bodhisattvas who will re-appear before Lord Maitreya, including the greatest of all treasures that a world can have; a perfect monk. So Miwoche was not a Buddha? In my opinion, Bon monastics are called 'rishi' (Seer...
- Tue May 21, 2013 1:06 pm
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
Wrong. We have much certainty for post-dynastic works, history and doctrines. You don't know what you're talking about. This is silly. Given the lack of written resources on the Bon tradition from pre-Buddhist Tibet and the clear and powerfulinfluence Buddhism has had on the Bon traditions over the...
- Tue May 21, 2013 11:58 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
I'm personally a Nyingmapa and not personally interested in studying Bon or any other tradition really since I already have all I need, but I must say... Not even all Buddhist teachings were technically founded by Shakyamuni Buddha. Virtually all of the Vajrayana was originally transmitted in this ...
- Tue May 21, 2013 11:33 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
...what is certain is that Yungdrung Bon as it exists today is a Sarma school but it has roots in the 8th century...The only difference between Bon and Geluk is the introduction of Dzogchen in the Bon cursus of studies...The problem that are raised here on this forum is only there because Kongchog ...
- Mon May 20, 2013 10:53 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
As you know at every age of the turning of Dharma the Dharma of the previous age becomes extinct and is renewed again by the Tathagata in this case Shakyamuni Buddha so for one to suggest that there is a ancient Buddha who's Dharma has been preserved in the form of the Bon religion is nonsense. Bon...
- Sun May 19, 2013 5:55 pm
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
So why are you carrying on like a two bob watch? It's not for you? It's not for you! But grand sweeping statements like the one at the beginning of the thread? What purpose do they serve? :? The gentleman in the earlier thread discussed combining Bon with Buddhism. My argument is that these traditi...
- Sun May 19, 2013 5:09 pm
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
H. H. the Dalai Lama's recognition of Bon as the native religion of Tibet and one of its five core spiritual traditions is an important acknowledgement of Bon's significant role in Tibetan history and current affairs. The first religious text that I ever studied was 'The Nine Ways of Bon', and for ...
- Sun May 19, 2013 4:14 pm
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
If syncretistic American practitioners wish to refer to Shenrab Miwoche as 'Buddha', thats up to them, likewise if folk wish to take refuge in the Four Jewels, Ten Jewels or whatever, that is also their right. However the lineages are categorically not the same, one comes from a fully enlightened Bu...
- Sun May 19, 2013 3:36 pm
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
kirtu wrote:...contrary to Shakyamuni Buddha's Dharma? What was it?
http://www.olmoling.org/contents/olmo_ling_refuge_tree'As practitioners on the path of liberation we take refuge in the Four Jewels...'
- Sun May 19, 2013 3:11 pm
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
Apologies for posting a slightly innaccurate reference... 'The Bon Religion of Tibet: The Iconography of a Living Tradition.' Per Kvaerne. Serindia. London. 1995. (Pp. 13, 17, 18, 22) 'To the casual observer, Tibetans who follow the tradition of Bon and those who adhere to the Buddhist faith can har...
- Sun May 19, 2013 11:28 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
http://www.bonfoundation.org/letter.html '...We Tibetans regard Bon as the ancient, indigenous religious and cultural tradition of our ancestors, which is the source and embodiment of many aspects of the Tibetan way of life. With the advent of Buddhism in the Land of Snows, most Tibetans became Bud...
- Sun May 19, 2013 10:10 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
Bon is currently (officially) recognised as the fifth school of Tibetan Buddhism.I think the script at this point says: Sectarians exit stage left. Hopefully, I can question your views today Greg without being deleted, and hopefully this thread will continue past the point where you have said your ...
- Sun May 19, 2013 10:05 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 29369
Re: Buddhism & Bon: Practicing Both at Once?
Is Bon Dharma?...No. The fact that a few enlightened masters are able study Bon in a spirit of friendship and tolerance does not make it 'the fifth school of Tibetan Buddhism'. A 'fifth Tibetan spiritual school' certainly, but it is not a tradition founded by Lord Buddha, so it is not Buddhism, rega...