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Re: The tantric vow not to disparage women

I've always thought this vow somehow related to karmamudra. Maybe wrong.
by lorem
Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:06 pm
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: The tantric vow not to disparage women
Replies: 18
Views: 222

Re: Polygamy / Polyandry & Buddhism

Karmamudra is not sex, it's yoga. It is sexual yoga. Ordinary sex is not liberative. Really? And here's me thinking that ordinary mind is the problem. Virupa could drink beer all day long. Is alcohol problematic for the practitioner? ...
by Sherab Dorje
Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:36 pm
 
Forum: Ethical Conduct
Topic: Polygamy / Polyandry & Buddhism
Replies: 68
Views: 994

Re: Polygamy / Polyandry & Buddhism

... a celibate monastic. He had two wives (ie he was a polygamist) and from all accounts liked to "get it on" with dakinis. So... :shrug: Karmamudra is not sex, it's yoga. Ordinary sex is not liberative. Virupa could drink beer all day long. Is alcohol problematic for the practitioner? ...
by Karma Dorje
Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:19 pm
 
Forum: Ethical Conduct
Topic: Polygamy / Polyandry & Buddhism
Replies: 68
Views: 994

Re: The Order of Practices in the Yoga of the Illusory Body

... nature of appearance, dreams, and the Bardo, and the full attainment of the illusory body is accomplished either at death or by means of a karmamudra. Is that the correct understanding of the presentation of illusory body yoga?
by Bakmoon
Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:45 am
 
Forum: Gelug
Topic: The Order of Practices in the Yoga of the Illusory Body
Replies: 6
Views: 317

Re: Kayas

Bliss is a nyam, a temporary meditative experience. But it's also something I've worked with in the third type of Abhisheka but even in that context it isn't necessarily limited to karmamudra. So Zhen Li isn't entirely correct but not entirely incorrect. It's also another word for fruition mahamudra.
by Hieros Gamos
Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:29 pm
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Kayas
Replies: 31
Views: 510

Re: Kayas

... whenever they like. How so and so practices at any time is a conditioned part of illusory reality. :yinyang: But regardless, I never mentioned karmamudra. I don't believe you actually read the quotes or what I said, it seems to me you're assuming what you think I would say. "Of this bliss ...
by Zhen Li
Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:50 pm
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Kayas
Replies: 31
Views: 510

Re: Kayas

... "Innate Great Bliss" (which relates to the term "Sahaja," BTW) is not something produced by methods, including the methods of Karmamudra or "Sexual union." Your posts would lead one to believe otherwise, in my opinion. Yes, "sexual union," both metaphoric ...
by conebeckham
Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:16 pm
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Kayas
Replies: 31
Views: 510

Re: Kayas

... union, actually, either. Orgasmic bliss is merely a metaphor, or a "finger pointing to the moon," even in those systems where actual Karmamudra (Sexual practices) are engaged in--whether in Tibetan traditions, or Newari, or wherever. There isn't, fundamentally, a significant difference ...
by Zhen Li
Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:01 pm
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Kayas
Replies: 31
Views: 510

Re: Kayas

... union, actually, either. Orgasmic bliss is merely a metaphor, or a "finger pointing to the moon," even in those systems where actual Karmamudra (Sexual practices) are engaged in--whether in Tibetan traditions, or Newari, or wherever. In Highest Yoga Tantra systems, esp. of the Mother ...
by conebeckham
Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:39 pm
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Kayas
Replies: 31
Views: 510

Re: Breaking samaya if one talks about rigpa?

... dzogchen but the teachings Marpa the translator got in India from Naropa to attain liberation. Must everyone constantly debunk your claims of karmamudra, sexual samayas, Tilopa's numerous human teachers, and now this? Marpa never met Naropa. :jumping: yeah, whatever....
by theanarchist
Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:01 am
 
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Unity's theory on the nature of mind
Replies: 201
Views: 811

Re: Breaking samaya if one talks about rigpa?

... dzogchen but the teachings Marpa the translator got in India from Naropa to attain liberation. Must everyone constantly debunk your claims of karmamudra, sexual samayas, claiming Tilopa lacked human teachers, and now this? Marpa never met Naropa.
by ConradTree
Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:59 pm
 
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Unity's theory on the nature of mind
Replies: 201
Views: 811

Re: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?

JKhedrup wrote:The current incarnation of Dudjom Rinpoche is my friend on Facebook. He quotes from Swami Yogananda in his posts almost as often as he quotes Padmasambhava.


:jawdrop:
by dzogchungpa
Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:20 pm
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?
Replies: 192
Views: 2361

Re: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?

... no? If you are following a vajrayana path you have to be realistic about how far you will be able to get in this lifetime. And for most of those karmamudra is not going to be on the menue this time around. So no reasion to look for a partner that would theoretically be suitable. The yoga of passion, ...
by Malcolm
Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:33 pm
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?
Replies: 192
Views: 2361

Re: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?

The Buddhist couples I know have a far harder go of it. With a couple of exceptions, the children of Western Buddhist parents I know would not go within 50 metres of a dharna centre. They see them as places of competition, jealousy and disharmony, even though many believe the teachings are sound. I...
by theanarchist
Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:40 pm
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?
Replies: 192
Views: 2361

Re: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?

... no? If you are following a vajrayana path you have to be realistic about how far you will be able to get in this lifetime. And for most of those karmamudra is not going to be on the menue this time around. So no reasion to look for a partner that would theoretically be suitable.
by theanarchist
Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:28 pm
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?
Replies: 192
Views: 2361

Re: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?

It's the choice of the teachers. They could still do it as it has been done in the past, giving empowerment and teaching vajrayana meditation strictly to people who are actually going into retreat. There are lamas who still handle it that way. Sure. In Sakya's Lam Dre, where these instructions are ...
by Malcolm
Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:46 pm
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?
Replies: 192
Views: 2361

Re: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?

Malcolm wrote:This stuff is not a joke, and actually, we ought not be discussing it in a public forum.
I think you'll find I said this back on page 3 or 4.
by Sherab Dorje
Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:05 am
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?
Replies: 192
Views: 2361

Re: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?

Yes plwk, that is the place- traditional Hindu community led by mostly Western swamis. Nice people, certainly generally more congenial than most Western Vajrayanists. More harmonious too , despite tantric injuctions about how to relate to vajra siblings that we find in our tradition.
by JKhedrup
Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:15 am
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?
Replies: 192
Views: 2361

Re: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?

JKhedrup wrote:...the children of Western Buddhist parents I know would not go within 50 metres of a dharna centre. They see them as places of competition, jealousy and disharmony, even though many believe the teachings are sound.

Sounds like my attitude. :tantrum:
by smcj
Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:42 am
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?
Replies: 192
Views: 2361

Re: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?

If you are practicing the sadhana, whether you have done any retreat or not, you should be practicing the yoga of passion if you have a partner. Therefore, that partner better be a fellow practitioner, no? I will take your word for it. Frankly, very little of this was taught, as it is expected in K...
by conebeckham
Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:56 am
 
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Minimum prerequisites for physical karmamudra practice?
Replies: 192
Views: 2361
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