The structure of Rinzai retreats?

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The structure of Rinzai retreats?

Postby Luke » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:02 am

I was curious if anyone could describe to me the typical daily schedule of a Rinzai Zen retreat?

Is it similar to the daily schedule of the Soto Zen retreat I described in this thread of mine?
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And do Rinzai Zen Buddhists do oriyoki in their retreats?

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Re: The structure of Rinzai retreats?

Postby Meido » Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:09 am

The schedule you did appears familiar, though in comparison somewhat relaxed to my eyes in terms of number of hours spent in sitting practice and allowed for sleep. Which is not to knock it at all; a full monastic sesshin schedule (Soto or Rinzai) is something to work up to, and many places do offer retreats with different or shorter schedules to accommodate experience levels, older folks, etc.

There is a formal Rinzai meal practice not unlike oryoki, but that term is not used. The bowls/utensils are a bit different as well.

A typical sesshin day around here looks something like this:

4:30 Kaijo (wake up in the zendo)
4:45 Baito Sarei/Daza (group tea then sitting practice)
5:30 Dokusan (individual meetings with the teacher)
6:00 Choka (chanting)
6:30 Shodo (calligraphy practice)
7:15 Shukuza (morning meal)
8:00 Samu (physical work period)
9:00 Daza (sitting)
11:00 Saiza (mid-day meal)
12:00 Zuiza (free sitting)
1:00 Sarei/Daza (group tea then sitting)
2:30 Dokusan (individual meetings with the teacher)
3:00 Taiso (exercise period)
3:45 Kaiyoku (bath time)
4:30 Yakuseki (evening meal)
6:00 Daza (sitting)
6:30 Kentan/Daza (formal inspection of the zendo by the teacher and sitting)
7:30 Dokusan (individual meetings with the teacher)
8:00 Teisho (chanting, followed by formal lecture)
9:00 Daza (sitting)
10:00 Sarei/Kaichin/Yaza (group tea followed by formal "lights out", then solo sitting practice outside on the grounds until midnight)
12:00 Go to sleep.

Finally, congratulations on your first retreat!
Even though you have attained insight into the True Nature (kensho), there is yet the barrier of differentiation, and there is the One Path of Advanced Practice. If you have not yet even seen into the True Nature, what a lot there is yet to do! - Torei


Korinji Rinzai Zen Monastery [臨済宗 • 祖的山光林禅寺] - http://www.korinji.org
Madison, WI Rinzai Zen Community [機山龍源寺] - http://www.madisonrinzaizen.org
The Rinzai Zen Community - http://www.rinzaizen.org

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Re: The structure of Rinzai retreats?

Postby Wayfarer » Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:42 am

Could I ask if Rinzai monks are generally expected to do with 4:30 hours for sleep? Or is that for short periods of time, like, during retreats?
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Re: The structure of Rinzai retreats?

Postby Meido » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:15 pm

Even though you have attained insight into the True Nature (kensho), there is yet the barrier of differentiation, and there is the One Path of Advanced Practice. If you have not yet even seen into the True Nature, what a lot there is yet to do! - Torei


Korinji Rinzai Zen Monastery [臨済宗 • 祖的山光林禅寺] - http://www.korinji.org
Madison, WI Rinzai Zen Community [機山龍源寺] - http://www.madisonrinzaizen.org
The Rinzai Zen Community - http://www.rinzaizen.org

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Re: The structure of Rinzai retreats?

Postby AlexMcLeod » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:26 pm

Relax! Smile From The Heart!

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Re: The structure of Rinzai retreats?

Postby Wayfarer » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:00 pm

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Re: The structure of Rinzai retreats?

Postby Meido » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:06 pm

Even though you have attained insight into the True Nature (kensho), there is yet the barrier of differentiation, and there is the One Path of Advanced Practice. If you have not yet even seen into the True Nature, what a lot there is yet to do! - Torei


Korinji Rinzai Zen Monastery [臨済宗 • 祖的山光林禅寺] - http://www.korinji.org
Madison, WI Rinzai Zen Community [機山龍源寺] - http://www.madisonrinzaizen.org
The Rinzai Zen Community - http://www.rinzaizen.org

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Re: The structure of Rinzai retreats?

Postby Meido » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:56 pm

Even though you have attained insight into the True Nature (kensho), there is yet the barrier of differentiation, and there is the One Path of Advanced Practice. If you have not yet even seen into the True Nature, what a lot there is yet to do! - Torei


Korinji Rinzai Zen Monastery [臨済宗 • 祖的山光林禅寺] - http://www.korinji.org
Madison, WI Rinzai Zen Community [機山龍源寺] - http://www.madisonrinzaizen.org
The Rinzai Zen Community - http://www.rinzaizen.org

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Re: The structure of Rinzai retreats?

Postby Meido » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:15 pm

Even though you have attained insight into the True Nature (kensho), there is yet the barrier of differentiation, and there is the One Path of Advanced Practice. If you have not yet even seen into the True Nature, what a lot there is yet to do! - Torei


Korinji Rinzai Zen Monastery [臨済宗 • 祖的山光林禅寺] - http://www.korinji.org
Madison, WI Rinzai Zen Community [機山龍源寺] - http://www.madisonrinzaizen.org
The Rinzai Zen Community - http://www.rinzaizen.org


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