seeker242 wrote:If you are a Buddhist and someone asks you and you say no, isn't that breaking the "I undertake the training rule to abstain from false speech."?
It probably would be if I considered myself as a Buddhist rather than a dzogchen practitioner:
"Dzogchen is an ancient spiritual teaching developed in Tibet within the Tibetan Buddhist tradition. It does not belong to a school or religious system. Rather, it is the knowledge that Tibetan masters have transmitted without being limited by sectarianism. The word 'Dzogchen', meaning 'total perfection', actually refers to the true inherent nature of all beings, their primordial state, which is free from all limitations and conditioning. The master's transmission of this state of knowledge lies at the very heart of the Dzogchen teachings.
The Dzogchen tradition has been passed from master to student in an unbroken lineage over the centuries, right up to the present day. Due to its direct and unelaborate approach, it transcends cultural boundaries making it accessible to all nationalities regardless of their spiritual background."
I took refuge with Lama Tsering Everest after already receiving transmission from Namkhai Norbu several times and practicing his methods for 3 or 4 years. I also specifically took refuge with her with the intention of taking them as a dzogchen student who is allowed to do anything and will keep all samayas in guru yoga, as Namkhai Norbu teaches. I view Tibetan Buddhism the same framework as some Tibetan Buddhists view Dzogchen; Dzogchen is like the cherry on top of all the other teachings. The difference being I have been introduced to the 'cherry' first... so, now that I have realized I am not fortunate enough to be an instantly awakened Buddha, I have gone back to receive the rest of the ice cream sundae, too. But, I still consider myself a student of dzogchen, regardless of how much respect I have for all forms of Buddhism.
"Use what seems like poison as medicine. We can use our personal suffering as the path to compassion for all beings." Pema Chodron