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The possibility of subforums for Rinzai and Soto Zen.

Postby Sara H » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:04 am

I was playing around with the idea of possible sub-forums in the Zen forum for Rinzai and Soto.

I was thinking about this considering there is a general forum for Tibetan Buddhism, as well as sub forums for each sect.

I'm not really sure if it's needed or not, or good or not, so I thought I'd throw the idea out there and see what people thought.

Anyway what do you all think?

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Re: The possibility of subforums for Rinzai and Soto Zen.

Postby Indrajala » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:14 am

I'm fine with this, though we don't have many people who subscribe specifically to Soto or Rinzai.
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Re: The possibility of subforums for Rinzai and Soto Zen.

Postby Quiet Heart » Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:32 am

Sara H wrote:I was playing around with the idea of possible sub-forums in the Zen forum for Rinzai and Soto.

I was thinking about this considering there is a general forum for Tibetan Buddhism, as well as sub forums for each sect.
I'm not really sure if it's needed or not, or good or not, so I thought I'd throw the idea out there and see what people thought.
Anyway what do you all think?

In Gassho,

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Personally, I would like it.
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Re: The possibility of subforums for Rinzai and Soto Zen.

Postby Astus » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:42 pm

Tibetan Buddhism has its subforums, just as East Asian Buddhism. Based on the number of topics in the Zen subforum it does not seem necessary to further divide it. Plus, such a distinction exists only in Japanese Zen, and in the West, because of the majority Sanbo Kyodan groups, they are not really separate. Nevertheless, if you feel the need for a special section for a specific tradition for some reasons it can be arranged without problem.
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Re: The possibility of subforums for Rinzai and Soto Zen.

Postby Sara H » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:13 am

Astus wrote:Plus, such a distinction exists only in Japanese Zen, and in the West..

Well this is why I put it out there.

It seems like it might be helpful.

It's quite possible the subforums would only be used slowly at first, however it seems appropreate to give each linniage their own home, as with the Tibetan sects, as there are distinctions between the traditions.

Tibetan Buddhism can sometimes look very similar to non-Tibetan practitioners, but there are distinctions and varriations in practice. In truth, I didn't actually know there were so many sub-sects of Tibetan Buddhism until joining this forum.

Such subforums for Zen would also allow people to better understand the differences and distinctions in Zen, as well as to perhaps better enable people to ask more focused questions specific to a linneage.

So it seems like they could be helpful.

How about a Rinzai, Soto, and Ch'an subforums?

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Re: The possibility of subforums for Rinzai and Soto Zen.

Postby tomamundsen » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:24 am

Huseng wrote:I'm fine with this, though we don't have many people who subscribe specifically to Soto or Rinzai.

It's possible they avoided it because there wasn't a sub-forum for them!

P.S. I used to practice Soto Zen (also took precepts in a Soto lineage) and am still interested in discussions about it.
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Re: The possibility of subforums for Rinzai and Soto Zen.

Postby Meido » Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:26 am

Sara H wrote:How about a Rinzai, Soto, and Ch'an subforums?


Agreed this could be useful, and eventually might serve to attract more participants.

I would suggest Ch'an, Rinzai, Soto and additionally Son (Korean Zen) subforums.

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Re: The possibility of subforums for Rinzai and Soto Zen.

Postby Astus » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:03 am

As a trial subforums have been created under Zen.
"There is no such thing as the real mind. Ridding yourself of delusion: that's the real mind."
(Sheng-yen: Getting the Buddha Mind, p 73)

"Neither cultivation nor seated meditation — this is the pure Chan of Tathagata."
(Mazu Daoyi, X1321p3b23; tr. Jinhua Jia)

“Don’t rashly seek the true Buddha;
True Buddha can’t be found.
Does marvelous nature and spirit
Need tempering or refinement?
Mind is this mind carefree;
This face, the face at birth."

(Nanyue Mingzan: Enjoying the Way, tr. Jeff Shore; T2076p461b24-26)
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Re: The possibility of subforums for Rinzai and Soto Zen.

Postby Sara H » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:58 am

Meido wrote:
Sara H wrote:How about a Rinzai, Soto, and Ch'an subforums?


Agreed this could be useful, and eventually might serve to attract more participants.

I would suggest Ch'an, Rinzai, Soto and additionally Son (Korean Zen) subforums.

~ Meido


Ah! I didn't know about Son. I knew there was Korean Zen, But I didn't know what it was called!
Thank you! that's helpful to know!
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Re: The possibility of subforums for Rinzai and Soto Zen.

Postby Meido » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:23 pm

:namaste:

Thien (Vietnamese Zen lines) also. But I've not seen much from those folks online...

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