Abandoning Buddhism, What Now?

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Re: Abandoning Buddhism, What Now?

Postby Sherab Dorje » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:27 pm

PPS Initially you responded to statements by using straw men and red herrings, and now you are resorting to baseless accusations to cover your lack of ability to respond. Those are pretty poor debating techniques.
"When one is not in accord with the true view
Meditation and conduct become delusion,
One will not attain the real result
One will be like a blind man who has no eyes."
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Re: Abandoning Buddhism, What Now?

Postby Malcolm » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:58 pm

Adi wrote: but frankly it seems a waste everyone's time.

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Mostly A108's, but it is his choice.
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Re: Abandoning Buddhism, What Now?

Postby dharmagoat » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:18 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Adi wrote: but frankly it seems a waste everyone's time.

Mostly A108's, but it is his choice.

With the proper investigation, along with help and support from his fellow Buddhists, I am confident that Andrew will resolve this. I am sure his time is not wasted.
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Re: Abandoning Buddhism, What Now?

Postby Andrew108 » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:36 pm

@Adi. I am a Buddhist. What gave you the idea that I'm not? I am the one saying to Dharmagoat that he needn't abandon buddhism. I am not the one saying that he can't be a buddhist.
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Re: Abandoning Buddhism, What Now?

Postby dharmagoat » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:11 pm

I feel that this thread has come to the end of its natural life.

From my perspective it has served its purpose more than I had hoped. I feel that the concerns that I raised at the beginning of this topic have all been addressed. Even though I may have lost an identity with Buddhism, I feel I have gained a better sense of the Dharma. Above all, I have discovered a renewed sense of community here at Dharma Wheel.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed.
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Re: Abandoning Buddhism, What Now?

Postby Alfredo » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:08 pm

Dharmagoat:
I feel that this thread has come to the end of its natural life.

From my perspective it has served its purpose more than I had hoped. I feel that the concerns that I raised at the beginning of this topic have all been addressed.


It was because of my post, wasn't it? :twothumbsup:

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"Building the ultimate personal philosophy" may be a noble activity in some sense, but it can also just be a manifestation of ego to think that one's insight is so much greater than the Buddha's and that we can succeed and "fill in the missing pieces" where he could not. Such public "philosophy-building" is often just the celebration of one's illusory self. But this is also just a stage of life that a lot of intellectual people go through as young adults: "Oh, hey! I figured everything out and created my own synthesis of existing philosophies! I'm just so bright and clever!" lol


While I happily indulge in all types of egoism, I don't call myself "half a Buddhist" in order to reflect some systematic personal philosophy. My own views are none too solid, and change from day to day. I say this in order to distinguish myself from the more consistent / committed / gung-ho Buddhists (including several posters here), who I don't resemble very much. Perhaps it is some sort of age thing. (I am pushing 50.) Also, I would never claim my own insight to be greater than the Buddha's--for one thing, I'm not sure that he ever existed!
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Re: Abandoning Buddhism, What Now?

Postby dharmagoat » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:38 pm

Alfredo wrote:It was because of my post, wasn't it?

No, not at all. Things were just starting to get a bit niggly around here.
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Re: Abandoning Buddhism, What Now?

Postby Sherab Dorje » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:39 pm

Discussion on Critical Thinking moved here.
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Meditation and conduct become delusion,
One will not attain the real result
One will be like a blind man who has no eyes."
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