"Attack of the White Buddhists" by Justin Chin

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Re: "Attack of the White Buddhists" by Justin Chin

Postby JKhedrup » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:25 pm

Uan,

I met these students in my Mandarin class at university, so I do have a wish to learn about Chinese culture. I have spent 11 months total living in Chinese monasteries-both in Taiwan and USA (City of Ten Thousand Buddhas). So while I cannot say I am an expert on Chinese culture or even well informed as it is exceedingly rich, ancient and complex, I do have more exposure to it than your average White Canadian.

You misunderstand when I say other considerations. To work as a peer councillor at my school, I underwent an intensive exercise known as Blue Eyes Brown Eyes Pioneered by Jane Elliot. I linked to her in another thread. Part of what I learned was that as a White male I should not generally take the lead in talking about oppression outside my position of privilege. That is my general rule. And I usually take the role of listener in these conversations as I aknowledge I am part of the priveleged group in my country of origin. I can change out of my robes when I walk the street (though perhaps out of stubborness but also a sense of commitment I never do.) People cannot change their skin colour.

However, I speak Tibetan and have lived with Tibetans for nearly 10 years of my life, and been involved in TB for over 17. I have seen bullet scars, heard heart wrenching stories of torture and know the perilous precipice of obliteration which Tibetan language and culture are facing. So, though I normally wouldn't say anything, in this case I do.

When the lama I translate for daily cannot confirm whether members of his family are dead, alive or in prison I cannot remain silent in the face of terrible misinformation widely believed by some in the Chinese overseas community and consider myself loyal to the teachers who have opened the door of dharma for me.

Just as I as an upstanding white man must facd the music of the racist foundation upon which privilege is built, even if those students are uncomfortable the horrible misinformation if the Chinese government must be exposed for what it is. Because I can speak Tibetan and have Tibetan friends, at least I can share some of my knowledge.

As I said,normally I know as a White man it isn't my place, but Tibet is burning so there are extenuating circumstances.
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Re: "Attack of the White Buddhists" by Justin Chin

Postby JKhedrup » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:25 pm

As for the six perfections, they include compassion and wisdom. How can those students develop wisdom if I do not share with them vital information about a serious issue?

I am always gentle and careful to state clearly my issue is with the Chinese Govt and its atrocities, not any cultural group. I try to be skilful and sensitive, but knowing what I know it would be a crime to be silent when I hear misinformation about the Tibetan people.

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Re: "Attack of the White Buddhists" by Justin Chin

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Re: "Attack of the White Buddhists" by Justin Chin

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Re: "Attack of the White Buddhists" by Justin Chin

Postby Konchog1 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:03 am

Is your identity of you being White, Chinese, Black, Protoss etc. the same as or different from your aggregates?
Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats

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Re: "Attack of the White Buddhists" by Justin Chin

Postby JKhedrup » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:50 am

The wisdom is something they will develop themselves, the information is something they need to develop it. I am sorry about the ignorance of that Tibetan man. I spent long periods of time living in majority Tibetan communities so I know they too have their prejudices.

In Canada too we have a sad history with our native people. My speaking about Tibet,though,does not deny that in any way. In all fairness, these were people I knew and went to class with. This was how I knew what they were taught and believed about Tibetans-that they were barbarians who were being civilized by the Chinese government. If my relating some stories from myconversations with Tibetans to dispel those prejudices makes them uncomfortable, while unfortunate, revealing prejudice for what it is will make people uncomfortable, because no one likes to admit they are prejudiced. But in diversity training we learned that discomfort will cause people to think.

As I stated, in the context of my diversity training I simply presented facts to my classmates. They were people I knew and drank coffee with,both before and after the conversation. They were not willing to confront the fact of atrocities in China, but at least I gave them information that they could think about later.
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Another Chinese friend of mine,not from this class, was very open to learning about Tibet. He was suspicious of the information he'd been given because he saw with his own eyes the Chinese Consulate hand out $50 to members of our campus Chinese student association to protest against HHDL. So he knew very well there was misinformation being presented. Perhaps if those other kids are approached in the same way they will think bavk to what I said and think maybe there was some valuable information there.

I dated a Jamaican girl in high school so I know the flack interracial couples get sometimes,but this is another issue. Toronto is a vibrant multicultural city and people get along amazingly well. But just as I would confont aWhite racist, I feel because the situation in Tibet is so dire I must counter the lies propagated by the Chinese government, especially when young people believe them.

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Re: "Attack of the White Buddhists" by Justin Chin

Postby Sherlock » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:42 am

:good:

I think the whole thing is much more simple than some of what has been discussed. Many people are misinformed about certain things and form biases due to that. We can try to provide them with more information and hope they resolve biases on their own.

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Re: "Attack of the White Buddhists" by Justin Chin

Postby muni » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:30 am

Ah yes, prejudices.

In so many life times,
If I only had realized the great meaning of cherishing others, I certainly already had been awaken!
But alas! I remained in my deluded pain since I could only cherish my own ideas about others.

:namaste:

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