ronnewmexico wrote:This in america...B of A one of those most responsible for the debacle is now donating foreclosed houses and demolishing them in the interest of removing houses from the market......
ya gotta wonder but no one does.....http://finance.yahoo.com/news/BofA-Donates-Then-Demolishes-bloomberg-946456059.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=5&asset=&ccode=
they do this to get a tax write off....so in essence the corporate government is doing this....free homes to homeless....no way
ronnewmexico wrote:That works in some places...In the US they bring in the goons state local or federal depending upon size and scope and push everyone out by force arresting those in charge putting them where they can't do any trouble. And the media...will take the side of the goons and portray anyone squatting as heinous lawbreakers.
One person just today who bid on a governmental contract to mine illegally even though many environmental groups offered to pay the price for the bid to save the area from drilling and the bid itself was declared illegal....received 2 years prison for the offense.
America..there is not a bit of hope....greece..maybe.
The General said - "You don't think we're just going to walk out of India!"
Gandhi replied - "Yes. In the end, you will walk out. Because 100,000 Englishmen simply cannot control 350 million Indians, if those Indians refuse to cooperate."
Greece has been continuously populated (by humans) since 7000BC. I will also take a stab in the dark and guess that white Americans did not learn about democracy from the American Indians.ronnewmexico wrote:that country that gave birth to democracy thing...native americans back in the day had democracies,and they considered themselves nations. We're talking 8000 years of history I'd say. So the giving birth thing.....not so sure about that.
Cleisthenes (Greek: Κλεισθένης, also Clisthenes or Kleisthenes) was a noble Athenian of the Alcmaeonid family. He is credited with reforming the constitution of ancient Athens and setting it on a democratic footing in 508/7 BC. For these accomplishments, historians refer to him as "the father of Athenian democracy." He was the maternal grandson of the tyrant Cleisthenes of Sicyon, as the younger son of the latter's daughter Agariste and her husband Megacles. Also, he was credited for increasing power of assembly and he also broke up power of nobility for Athens.
Karma Dondrup Tashi wrote:... junk it all.
justsit wrote:Karma Dondrup Tashi wrote:... junk it all.
And do what exactly?
And I guess that George Washington and all the Anglo-Irish invaders of America and their offspring did not arrive in America with a preconceived notion of democracy with its roots in 2000 years of European poltical history? Or maybe they were not influenced by the French democratic revolution (and direct French assistance to overthrow British rule)? And I wonder where the French ideals of Democracy came from?ronnewmexico wrote:GK...yes you are ignorant of american history. George Washington for one was very involved with indian issues some in a war context.
The american indian was a very big player in the early history of american under british and then american rule. There is nothing to indicate such a close working relationship did not also involve a exchange of ideas...."I will also take a stab in the dark and guess that white Americans did not learn about democracy from the American Indians."
gregkavarnos wrote:I will also take a stab in the dark and guess that white Americans did not learn about democracy from the American Indians.