Bone Kangling

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Bone Kangling

Postby TenzinDorje » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:52 pm

I appreciate anyone pointing out where a bone Kangling may be available in the U.S. for T'hroma Chod retreat next month. There is one practitioner coming in from GOA with an extra. However there are additional practitioners, including me that have not yet connected up with one. Lama Dawa is strict (in a very good way) and the resin/wood ones are not applicable.

No jokes about digging up Grandma's bones please. I've buried enough relatives and last week had a lady at one dharma supply yell at me for even asking about the bone ones. I did reply that I know jail is like so she does not have to yell..

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Bone Kangling

Postby Karma Dorje » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:58 pm

That's odd as they are quite legal in most US states. Try Damaruworks.com.
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Re: Bone Kangling

Postby michaelb » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:38 pm

http://www.dharmatreasures.com/categories/Ritual-Implements-%26-Instruments/?fullSite=1
http://www.potalagate.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=009&DEPT=1178131571&CAT=1178132031&BACK=A0007A1B01178131571B1
They are readily available from dharma supply stores on-line or in person. The only problem may be the legality of importing human remains to certain jurisdictions, but that shouldn't be a problem if you are shipping to the same country.
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Re: Bone Kangling

Postby TenzinDorje » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:16 am

Thanks - will check these out.
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Re: Bone Kangling

Postby pemachophel » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:39 pm

The store at Tara Mandala currently has a whole bunch. They do sell on-line or you can give them a call.

Good luck and best wishes.

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Re: Bone Kangling

Postby Nemo » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:09 pm

An average male femur is 19 inches and a female is 17. The femurs being sold are as short as 8 inches long. They are neither from condemned criminals or 16 year old Brahmin girls. They are not authentic. Most were robbed from Christian graves. Some are obviously from children.

I doubt She will be pleased with your disgusting offerings.
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Re: Bone Kangling

Postby pemachophel » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:30 pm

Nemo,

Not sure who you're replying to. The knagling at the Tara Mandala shop are all from eastern Bhutan and have the Bhutanese custom seals still on them. They come from a group that practices water burial. However, as devout Buddhists, they believe it is meritorious to offer they're thighbones and kapalas for other Buddhists to use. They are prepared by local ngakpa/gomchen in a multi-step process that takes several months. They have a number of different as well as both right and left femurs.

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Re: Bone Kangling

Postby Nemo » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:16 am

http://www.potalagate.com/Qstore/Qstore ... 78131571B1

Customs seals are meaningless. I often went to dealers who sold the seals with the item in question for an additional fee back in the day.
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Re: Bone Kangling

Postby Sherab Dorje » Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:11 am

Nemo wrote:An average male femur is 19 inches and a female is 17. The femurs being sold are as short as 8 inches long. They are neither from condemned criminals or 16 year old Brahmin girls. They are not authentic. Most were robbed from Christian graves. Some are obviously from children.

I doubt She will be pleased with your disgusting offerings.
So where is the problem with the bones being from Christian graves? Here in Greece people are only buried for five years and then the remains are dug up, cleaned and either placed in boxes and stored (for a fee) at the cemetery grounds or thrown into a hole along with other unclaimed remains (or the remains of those whose family cannot afford tht "rent" to have them stored). If one was to use these bones would the offerings be disgusting? I mean, really, the chodpa of old would just find the bones scattered in charnel grounds anyway. How would they know who the bones came from and if they were a Buddhist or not?
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Re: Bone Kangling

Postby Nemo » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:23 am

Going to visit the grave of your child only to find the grave has been dug up and her bones stolen. You are welcome to use mine after I am done using them.
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Re: Bone Kangling

Postby Karma Dorje » Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:01 am

Nemo wrote:Going to visit the grave of your child only to find the grave has been dug up and her bones stolen. You are welcome to use mine after I am done using them.


Excellent! Anything we might do to speed up the process?
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Re: Bone Kangling

Postby Nemo » Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:22 pm

Have patience and Karma will do the job ;)
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