Medicine buddha sadhana "Drop of Ambrosia"
Medicine buddha sadhana "Drop of Ambrosia"
Does anyone know in which class of tantra this sadhana practice belongs to? Many months ago I received medicine buddha empowerment from H.E Garchen rinpoche. He said that this medicine buddha empowerment belongs to "unsurpassed" tantra which is he`s way of saying anuttara yoga tantra. I started practicing "Stream of Lapis lazuli" -sadhana which is anuttara yoga tantra sadhana of medicine buddha.But yesterday I was on Garchen institute webstore and saw medicine buddha sadhana "a drop of ambrosia". I started wondering if this is the practice that I should do based on the empowerment I received. But based on the visualizations,this sadhana seems more like Kriya level practice. But I am not sure enough.
If I knew for sure that "Drop of ambrosia" is Kriya, then at least that way I am able to exclude one possibility.But since I am not quite sure, my question is in which class of tantra that sadhana belongs.
If I knew for sure that "Drop of ambrosia" is Kriya, then at least that way I am able to exclude one possibility.But since I am not quite sure, my question is in which class of tantra that sadhana belongs.
Who should we turn to for refuge? We should seek refuge in the Buddha. He is the one we weep before
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Re: Medicine buddha sadhana "Drop of Ambrosia"
Since Garchen Rinpoche gave the empowerment from Namchö, the Stream of Lapis would indeed be appropriate. But I think it would be better to receive oral transmission for the sadhana.
The Drop of Ambrosia is indeed something like Kriya, but AFAIK it's the one commonly practiced in Drikung centres in the West. I've seen it taught in conjunction with the empowerment of Medicine Buddha from Namchö.
R
The Drop of Ambrosia is indeed something like Kriya, but AFAIK it's the one commonly practiced in Drikung centres in the West. I've seen it taught in conjunction with the empowerment of Medicine Buddha from Namchö.
R
Re: Medicine buddha sadhana "Drop of Ambrosia"
Yes, the reading transmission would be important for this practice. Well, I just have to keep my eyes open for that opportunity. I really, really love this sadhana.ratna wrote:Since Garchen Rinpoche gave the empowerment from Namchö, the Stream of Lapis would indeed be appropriate. But I think it would be better to receive oral transmission for the sadhana.
R
Who should we turn to for refuge? We should seek refuge in the Buddha. He is the one we weep before
-H.H. 14th Dalai Lama
-H.H. 14th Dalai Lama
Re: Medicine buddha sadhana "Drop of Ambrosia"
qwerty13 wrote:Yes, the reading transmission would be important for this practice. Well, I just have to keep my eyes open for that opportunity. I really, really love this sadhana.ratna wrote:Since Garchen Rinpoche gave the empowerment from Namchö, the Stream of Lapis would indeed be appropriate. But I think it would be better to receive oral transmission for the sadhana.
R
If you have the empowerment, you have the lung for the sadhana.
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Why do you say this? Is it generally understood that if one has the empowerment, one has the lung for any given practice?Malcolm wrote:
If you have the empowerment, you have the lung for the sadhana.
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Because during the empowerment the guru recites all the main parts of the sadhana to create the disciple in the form of the deity, as well as the refuge and bodhicitta that we recite with the master, and he gives the transmission of the mantra and so forth.topazdreamz wrote:Why do you say this? Is it generally understood that if one has the empowerment, one has the lung for any given practice?Malcolm wrote:
If you have the empowerment, you have the lung for the sadhana.
So yes, in general, if you have the empowerment, you have the lung.
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Thank you, Malcolm, this is most enlightening.
Re: Medicine buddha sadhana "Drop of Ambrosia"
Malcolm wrote:qwerty13 wrote:Yes, the reading transmission would be important for this practice. Well, I just have to keep my eyes open for that opportunity. I really, really love this sadhana.ratna wrote:Since Garchen Rinpoche gave the empowerment from Namchö, the Stream of Lapis would indeed be appropriate. But I think it would be better to receive oral transmission for the sadhana.
R
If you have the empowerment, you have the lung for the sadhana.
OK thank you for this information!
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Re: Medicine buddha sadhana "Drop of Ambrosia"
This namcho torwang was an anuyoga empowerment. It is also found compiled in rinchen terdzo. I could be wrong of course.qwerty13 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:51 pm Does anyone know in which class of tantra this sadhana practice belongs to? Many months ago I received medicine buddha empowerment from H.E Garchen rinpoche. He said that this medicine buddha empowerment belongs to "unsurpassed" tantra which is he`s way of saying anuttara yoga tantra..if I knew for sure that "Drop of ambrosia" is Kriya, then at least that way I am able to exclude one possibility.But since I am not quite sure, my question is in which class of tantra that sadhana belongs.
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It is written annutarayoga in the original text but the style is anuyoga.bryandavis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:04 amThis namcho torwang was an anuyoga empowerment. It is also found compiled in rinchen terdzo. I could be wrong of course.qwerty13 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:51 pm Does anyone know in which class of tantra this sadhana practice belongs to? Many months ago I received medicine buddha empowerment from H.E Garchen rinpoche. He said that this medicine buddha empowerment belongs to "unsurpassed" tantra which is he`s way of saying anuttara yoga tantra..if I knew for sure that "Drop of ambrosia" is Kriya, then at least that way I am able to exclude one possibility.But since I am not quite sure, my question is in which class of tantra that sadhana belongs.
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Magnus,
The original text as in the root terma or empowerment manual or it's connected sadhana?
Also are you aware of other termas that are anutarayogatanra class? It's interesting.
"..སྔགས་འདི་རྒྱུད་འགའ་རེ་ནས་ཀྱང་འབྱུང་ཞིང་མདོ་ལུགས་ཁོ་ནར་ཡང་མ་ངེས་ཤིང་། གཡུ་ཐོག་པའི་བླ་སྒྲུབ་ཀྱང་བླ་མེད་ལུགས་སུ་སྣང་བ་ལྟར། འདི་རང་ནི་བླ་མེད་ཨ་ཏི་ཡོ་ག་ལྟར་དྲན་རྫོགས་སུ་བསྒོམ་པ་ཡིན་ལ། སྤྱིར་སངས་རྒྱས་སྨན་གྱི་བླ་བཻ་ཌཱུརྻ་འོད་ཀྱི་རྒྱལ་པོའི་མཚན་ཐོས་པ་ཙམ་གྱི་ཡང་ཕན་ཡོན་མཐའ་ཡས་ཏེ། ཚུལ་ཁྲིམས་ཉམས་པར་མི་འགྱུར་བ་དང་..."
This is are from the lineage history which talks about class. It says something like a mix of four streams and this sadhana is "anutara" and then to remember the meaning accords with ati yoga and to cultivate this state..... something like that.
B
The original text as in the root terma or empowerment manual or it's connected sadhana?
Also are you aware of other termas that are anutarayogatanra class? It's interesting.
"..སྔགས་འདི་རྒྱུད་འགའ་རེ་ནས་ཀྱང་འབྱུང་ཞིང་མདོ་ལུགས་ཁོ་ནར་ཡང་མ་ངེས་ཤིང་། གཡུ་ཐོག་པའི་བླ་སྒྲུབ་ཀྱང་བླ་མེད་ལུགས་སུ་སྣང་བ་ལྟར། འདི་རང་ནི་བླ་མེད་ཨ་ཏི་ཡོ་ག་ལྟར་དྲན་རྫོགས་སུ་བསྒོམ་པ་ཡིན་ལ། སྤྱིར་སངས་རྒྱས་སྨན་གྱི་བླ་བཻ་ཌཱུརྻ་འོད་ཀྱི་རྒྱལ་པོའི་མཚན་ཐོས་པ་ཙམ་གྱི་ཡང་ཕན་ཡོན་མཐའ་ཡས་ཏེ། ཚུལ་ཁྲིམས་ཉམས་པར་མི་འགྱུར་བ་དང་..."
This is are from the lineage history which talks about class. It says something like a mix of four streams and this sadhana is "anutara" and then to remember the meaning accords with ati yoga and to cultivate this state..... something like that.
B
Re: Medicine buddha sadhana "Drop of Ambrosia"
It is in the colophon of the sadhana but don't have terma marks. "Because it is anuttara tradition, cleanliness is not required. Because offerings are mentally emanated it can be done without tormas or other offerings. Therefore may everyone practice it."bryandavis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:16 pm Magnus,
The original text as in the root terma or empowerment manual or it's connected sadhana?
Also are you aware of other termas that are anutarayogatanra class? It's interesting.
"..སྔགས་འདི་རྒྱུད་འགའ་རེ་ནས་ཀྱང་འབྱུང་ཞིང་མདོ་ལུགས་ཁོ་ནར་ཡང་མ་ངེས་ཤིང་། གཡུ་ཐོག་པའི་བླ་སྒྲུབ་ཀྱང་བླ་མེད་ལུགས་སུ་སྣང་བ་ལྟར། འདི་རང་ནི་བླ་མེད་ཨ་ཏི་ཡོ་ག་ལྟར་དྲན་རྫོགས་སུ་བསྒོམ་པ་ཡིན་ལ། སྤྱིར་སངས་རྒྱས་སྨན་གྱི་བླ་བཻ་ཌཱུརྻ་འོད་ཀྱི་རྒྱལ་པོའི་མཚན་ཐོས་པ་ཙམ་གྱི་ཡང་ཕན་ཡོན་མཐའ་ཡས་ཏེ། ཚུལ་ཁྲིམས་ཉམས་པར་མི་འགྱུར་བ་དང་..."
This is are from the lineage history which talks about class. It says something like a mix of four streams and this sadhana is "anutara" and then to remember the meaning accords with ati yoga and to cultivate this state..... something like that.
B
The innermost sadhana in the Tripple Essence terma is said to be anuttara tantra.
/magnus
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)