African Americans & people of Color, & Buddhism in the West

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Re: African Americans & people of Color, & Buddhism in the W

Postby LastLegend » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:54 am

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Re: African Americans & people of Color, & Buddhism in the W

Postby Chi Wai » Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:30 am

In case you don't know, the American race and skin color based cultural identities and stereotypes belong to the first stage of Skandha. :) They are all false forms. Of course, in America, racism has been institutionalized--racism and stereotypes have been condoned by laws and legislations--(think of South Africa) for over 100 years. We are talking about over 3 generations of Americans who have been conditioned to conceptualize people's racial and ethnic identity based on the color of their skins. You can clearly see the amount of suffering this false consciousness can produce in the American society. If you are white and American and can not clearly see this obvious stage of Skandha, I am afraid you aren't going to reach any degree of Samadhi at all.

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Re: African Americans & people of Color, & Buddhism in the W

Postby ocean_waves » Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:52 am

"True seeing is called transcendence;
False seeing is worldliness:
Set aside both right and wrong,
And the nature of enlightenment is clear."

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Re: African Americans & people of Color, & Buddhism in the W

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Re: African Americans & people of Color, & Buddhism in the W

Postby Rakshasa » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:08 pm

Buddhism primarily developed amongst the Austro-Asiatics (Australoid race) who formed the largest racial make up of Indian society in 500BC to 0 AD. Of course, it also equally developed amongst the Caucasians of North Western India and the Mongoloids. Initially Buddhism faced resistance from the first Caucasian group in India (Aryans) but eventually many of them were influenced by Buddhism too. So the color of skin has nothing to do with Buddhism. Anyone can follow it. I believe there are sermons of Buddha in which he discusses caste system (which was initially devised to separate groups in a hierarchy based on the color of the skin) and he declares that all the humans form one single species unlike in the case of animals where we can find different species and even sub-species. This is remarkable because even in the medieval times when the Europeans (Caucasians) encountered other races, they were misled into considering the other colored humans as separate species. Buddha was clear in declaring that the humans do not even form sub-species. Like in Tigers, there are Bengal Tigers, Amur Tigers, Indo-Chinese, Sumatran Tigers etc. Humans do not even form sub species. This attests the depth of knowledge of the Buddha. There are indications in Pali Suttas that Buddha changed the color of his skin according to the land he visited to spread his teachings.

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Re: African Americans & people of Color, & Buddhism in the W

Postby Grigoris » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:16 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Postby Grigoris » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:01 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Postby LastLegend » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:28 pm

I learned from a geography class that the Aryan migrated to India in 1100 B.C. Buddha was born prior to that, so.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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Postby LastLegend » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:44 pm

So then Buddha was born after the immigration of the Aryan?
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Re: African Americans & people of Color, & Buddhism in the W

Postby Grigoris » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:48 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: African Americans & people of Color, & Buddhism in the W

Postby Grigoris » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:15 pm

That's a little outdated isn't it?
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Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: African Americans & people of Color, & Buddhism in the W

Postby Indrajala » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:13 pm

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Re: African Americans & people of Color, & Buddhism in the W

Postby ocean_waves » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:34 pm

this dhamma we refer to as "buddhism" has only one form... emptiness!!! :rolleye:
"True seeing is called transcendence;
False seeing is worldliness:
Set aside both right and wrong,
And the nature of enlightenment is clear."


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