SN Goenka retreats

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Re: SN Goenka retreats

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Re: SN Goenka retreats

Postby chickenman » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:31 pm

at such a retreat, the focus SHOULD be on your practice, but i don't think a simple smile or a nod of acknowledgement to a fellow human being would be such a terrible thing. lovingkindness, eh? ... to each his own, i suppose.

oh...and another thing. it wasn't just your "fellow human beings" you were to ignore at the retreat i attended, there was a cat that hung around the property that we were told to not touch or pay any attention to. i am an animal lover and i petted that cat every time i saw it, but the "gaurds" must not have seen me. i did, however, hear one of the staff scolding another fellow because he had been seen being friendly to the animal.
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Re: SN Goenka retreats

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Re: SN Goenka retreats

Postby Johnny Dangerous » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:30 pm

Man its sounding more and more like I should stay away, not sure I could obey the not interacting with the cat thing heh.
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Re: SN Goenka retreats

Postby lojong1 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:33 am

I was glad not to have 80 people blasting me with these "how rude" vibes for not entertaining them when my attention was on the meditation instruction.
Old sudents, who have practices Goenka vipassana for years, that I've encountered before and after retreats are without exception far from antisocial and depressed, and their pets are very happy.

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Re: SN Goenka retreats

Postby Johnny Dangerous » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:34 am

I'm not taking anything here as gospel, i'm just trying to figure whether it would be something up my alley or not, at this point it kind of sounds like not. Still, maybe that could also make a compelling argument to do it, being outside my comfort zone with rules such as that.
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Re: SN Goenka retreats

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Re: SN Goenka retreats

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Re: SN Goenka retreats

Postby dakini_boi » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:00 am

I am now a Vajrayana practitioner - but my very first meditation retreat was a Goenka 10-day. Honestly, it was among the most transformative retreats I have been on. The only reason I haven't gone back is because they make it clear that if you have already made up your mind to follow a different path, they don't want you to come back. My sensibility is definitely more Vajrayana, but the technique Goenka teaches is very effective, and the way the retreat is structured - silence, LOTS of sitting, regular one-on-one meetings with an instructor, very good explanation of the technique - all these make for a very powerful experience if you stick with it. Yes, there were things that I didn't really agree with, but what I think is impressive is that they conduct the retreat in such a way that if you really put in the effort, you're likely to experience some result from the practice.

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Re: SN Goenka retreats

Postby dakini_boi » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:38 pm

I also want to add that the experiential understanding about karma, and how it is connected to the body, that I got from the Goenka retreat was really unique, and something I have not come across in Vajrayana teachings.

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Re: SN Goenka retreats

Postby TaTa » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:29 pm

Hi. I have just came back from a goenka retreat while being a kagyu student. It worked very well with me. The technique is really well explained and the silence and rules make it more intense and serious. It was very helpfull. It helped me to see how difficult this path really is and it was a great reminder of the utility in daily life and the importance of a good base of the Hinayana teachings.

A few low points:
Some subtle bad talk about the vajrayana and other methods that was really repetitive. Maybe it was just my vajra ego beeing hurt or maybe is like someone once said: The shravaka bleed through the ears when they hear about shunyata. I dont know =P
Constant talk about THIS being pure dharma, THIS being vipassana.
Some choice of words in talking about dharma that was probably because of bad translation to spanish (For example sinful deeds instead of non virtuous deeds)
Lack of advice on posture that can be very difficult for non meditators.

Other than that it was great and people where really happy at the end. I think that it depends on the country how stritct they are with rules. Here they were quite permissible and they aloud you to rest in non group meditations.

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Re: SN Goenka retreats

Postby Johnny Dangerous » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:45 pm

Thanks for the report..i'm definitely considering one in the far future when I would actually be capable of a ten day retreat.

It sounds like the positives outweigh the negatives..., though frankly the negatives are pretty unappealing:(
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Re: SN Goenka retreats

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