question about meditation heat

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question about meditation heat

Postby qwerty13 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:09 pm

Sometimes when i focus on my breathing during samatha i feel a ball of heat inside me (somewhere under my navel). Heat becomes more intense during inhalation and colder during exhalation.also my palms are not only getting warm, but very hot. It is allmost feels as if i was holding hot iron ball on my lap. Once i felt a narrow stream of heat rising from the naval area to my chest where the heat gently expanded. One time i felt ball of heat inside my throat.
All this does not happen every time. It happens pretty seldom infact.

I know that tummo meditation has to do with heat production and internal wind manipulation, but i don`t know how tummo technique is actually executed. (PLUS i know that tummo is completion level practice, not for beginners like me).I amnot trying to create heat, it happens or does not happen (usually it doesn't happen).

But here`s couple of questions: Is this spontaneus meditation induced heat "legit" tummo heat or something else? Are internal winds being manipulated in this case somehow? Is there any value in this spontaneus heat experience?

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Re: question about meditation heat

Postby Ayu » Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:52 pm

Sounds like the chakras and meridians make some sensation. I have such things also from time to time. Seems like a purification-drama. :smile: I would try not to bother about it.
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Re: question about meditation heat

Postby disjointed » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:51 am

Crack a window.

Dunno if it's legit.
Tummo's supposed to produce bliss though methinks. I know when I have lots of bliss my body turns into a sweaty mess and the heat makes the air feel thick.
Digestion fire is just some warm feeling though, I think that's probably what you are experiencing. digestion fire isn't limited to the gut area.
Maybe it will be useful later.
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Re: question about meditation heat

Postby ClearblueSky » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:37 am

I've experienced this too, and it's not the same as the practice of tummo, tummo has a LOT of elements that are more than just feeling heat. Though that's not to say there's not a connection between the two, meditation and anything else we do have some effect on our channels and winds, as do inner yogas. But I think this is actually connected more to digestion and circulation than anything else. When your breathing relaxes and slows down and deepens, your digestive organs receive more oxygen and circulation. Even without going into meditation, take a moment and breathe deeply into your stomach a few times, and it should feel a bit warm in there. That's not to minimize your practice at all though, and even if that is all it was that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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Re: question about meditation heat

Postby Simon E. » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:33 am

Firstly querty13 I think you should be putting this question to a flesh and blood teacher. If they are experienced they will be able to ascertain the causes or causes...which could be to do with the channels and winds, but could also just be burning off 'stuff '..Or both.
Another reason for suggesting hands-on instruction is the phenomenon of people reading terms and then looking them up and thinking that they understand on that basis..out of any wider context.
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