Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

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Postby oldbob » Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:23 pm

:good: :good: :good: :group:

All great posts.

Nice to see this thread come alive, facing some of the issues of the DC.

Everyone describes the elephant from their point of view, like the blind wise men in the story, depending on what parts they touched.

I think that transmission depends on faith and devotion: the a-tuning of the student to the Teacher.

Please note the point about Ven. Jigme Lingpa's transmission / permissions from the omniscient Ven. Longchenpa.

So if with tears in the eyes, and your arm hairs standing straight up (2 signs of heart devotion) if you ask ChNNR for transmission / permission at ANY time - perhaps you will get it.

This has nothing to do with what his physical body, in this incarnation, is doing at the time. This is my piece of the elephant.

I have also been standing 1 meter from Rinpoche when someone asked him, "Can you get lung transmission from a recording?"

Rinpoche paused a moment and then said, "Yes, it is all sound," and then rolled his eyes up. This occurred at Tseygyalgar, on the upper land, many years ago. There were several witnesses.

Maybe he has since changed his mind.

Perhaps there are several personalities, in play, who teach different things at different times, just to keep things interesting. :smile: :woohoo: :smile:

Yes, I am back in the States, having survived 2 months in Margarita. You don't want to know, but I may address the issues in a separate thread.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby oldbob » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:00 pm

I don't know if anyone has mentioned already on this thread, but

SSI ITALY JUST WENT TO SUGGESTED DONATION FOR ALL BOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.shangshungstore.org/index.ph ... t_list&c=4

HIP HIP HOORAY!!!!!!!!!

Go for it now, before this goes away. Pay what you can afford and get the collection.

DO the practices and get the benefit.

Hooray for CHNNR and the hard working folks at SSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who says no one reads DW???

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby oldbob » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:28 pm

Spoke too soon. (In the voice of WC Fields.)

Called up Carla at SSI.

They meant to say "Suggested minimum contribution."

Oh Well. It was a nice thought while it lasted.

Maybe someday.

Back to the zafu, my little chik-a-dee.

"Better here than Philadelphia" (Written on WC's tomb stone.) :smile:

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Pero » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:47 pm

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby dzogchungpa » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:21 pm

Through Dzogchen we can really understand what God is and we don’t have to worry if there is a God or not. God always exists as our real nature, the base, for everybody. - Chögyal Namkhai Norbu

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby oldbob » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:49 pm

:namaste:

SSI mentioned that Longsal 9 is in stock, and available on the SSI site. If you are on their list for the attendees of the Yangtig Teaching in Tenerife, then you register with SSI using a special password code, that they give you and the Longsal 9 then appears in the list of books for sale. Adriano had mentioned to me that the Longsal 9 was available when I first went to Margarita, 2 months ago. It took them two months to get the book added to the site. I guess they are very busy.

26 Euros, with shipping, to the States. There will be no stocking of the Longsal 9, in the US, because the list of approved recipiants is maintained at SSI Italy.

I can afford it. Perhaps many people cannot afford the constant barrage of expensive, very interesting and tempting, new books / cds / dvds. When I asked about the new way of listing all prices as a "suggested donation", I was told that this was necessary because their SSI accountant told them that, because they are registered as a non-profit organization, they are not allowed to sell things at a fixed price.

Perhaps stating that books are available for a suggested donation is a cruel misrepresentation to a lot of poor people who may be misled to thinking that can now offer what they can afford. This is the common meaning of "suggested donation" in English.

What is wrong with this picture?

:soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox:

There must be a better way!

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Grigoris » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:56 am

An email has been sent by the staff team to SSI asking them to inform us regarding the legality of downloading/recording teachings, until we receive a reply please refrain from posting technical "how to..." information in public threads.

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Postby muni » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:36 am

Where is time existing 'out of thoughts'?
Is in open devotion a grasped thought?

ps. Don't harm, don't harm, don't harm and we should not cling/grasp to the created law of the dreamworld so that awakening cannot happen.

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No boundaries, no my space/no your space:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOsQa7sf6FE

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby treehuggingoctopus » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:09 pm

I've been thinking... how about the DC learning how to use Kickstarter?

http://www.kickstarter.com/

It might be of use in book publishing. It would certainly be of great use in retreat organisation. Hell, it could even be used in lieu of the current membership payments (though here things seem to be working relatively OK).

Any thoughts?
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Postby DGA » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:07 pm

http://www.indiegogo.com/

or indiegogo, which might be more suitable to not-for-profit orgs.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Pero » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:27 pm

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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