Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby heart » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:48 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:
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dzogchungpa wrote:Felix, just go work on your khaita. You'll be fine. :smile:


Thats not really fair, khaita might look funny on video but in real life it is something else.

/magnus


OK, OK, I just thought he could be a bit more joyful. :smile:

It is interesting how things aren't always how they seem at first glance though, isn't it?


You got a point.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby makewhisper » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:07 pm

Another question: How does one know whether Yantra Yoga, pranayama or kumbhaka is needed? What signs manifesting in practice suggest a need for one or more of these practices? Thanks!

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby climb-up » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:31 pm

Malcolm wrote:I am not sure how much time you have spent with teachers and communities outside the DC, but trust me, they generally think we are very strange.


What do they find strange about the DC?
Is it the view of dzogchen that is taught, or is the group's structure or interactional style unusual?

For many years I studied traditional Japanese martial arts in the Bujinkan organization. I was very surprised over the years to learn how we were viewed by people in the traditional Koryu ("old school" martial arts).

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Malcolm » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:31 pm

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Malcolm wrote:I am not sure how much time you have spent with teachers and communities outside the DC, but trust me, they generally think we are very strange.


What do they find strange about the DC?
Is it the view of dzogchen that is taught, or is the group's structure or interactional style unusual?
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby javier.espinoza.t » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:47 am

makewhisper wrote:Another question: How does one know whether Yantra Yoga, pranayama or kumbhaka is needed? What signs manifesting in practice suggest a need for one or more of these practices? Thanks!


it depends on what you are focusing, but the specific benefits of each yantra and pranayama are described in the commentary of the root text "Union of the Moon and the Sun Yantra" called "A Stainless Mirror of Jewels" -both included in the book "Yantra Yoga, The Tibetan Yoga of Movement"- at the end of each commentary -in the text-. This benefits can give us an idea for apply them in the face of a manifested sign.

i don't know anything about kumbhaka. Only that there is a pranayama for mastering it, oh, haha there is an application.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Karma_Yeshe » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:15 am

makewhisper wrote:Another question: How does one know whether Yantra Yoga, pranayama or kumbhaka is needed? What signs manifesting in practice suggest a need for one or more of these practices? Thanks!


Yantra Yoga is a system that includes both Pranayama and Kumbhaka, so I really don't understand your question. If you need Kumbhaka or not depends on the other practices you do or want to do. E.g. for a more complex Anu-Yoga practice it is very good if not indespensable to know how to do Kumbhaka. Pranayama is a basis for many Ati-Yoga practices and so on...

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Lhakpa » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:58 pm

Hi guys, I have some questions regarding the short/essential Mandarava practice, if any DC member who may be able to help can PM that would be great :) :bow:

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Tongnyid Dorje » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:27 pm

climb-up wrote:
Malcolm wrote:I am not sure how much time you have spent with teachers and communities outside the DC, but trust me, they generally think we are very strange.


What do they find strange about the DC?
Is it the view of dzogchen that is taught, or is the group's structure or interactional style unusual?

For many years I studied traditional Japanese martial arts in the Bujinkan organization. I was very surprised over the years to learn how we were viewed by people in the traditional Koryu ("old school" martial arts).


its true, that DC is full of wierdos.... dont take me bad, im also part of it. :smile:

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby makewhisper » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:47 am

Hiya. I got the email today about the longsal rushan retreat coming up at the end of January. It mentioned that there will be tridlungs on the last day. Can someone explain what the tridlungs are exactly? Thanks vajra siblings!

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Postby Virgo » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:02 am

makewhisper wrote:Hiya. I got the email today about the longsal rushan retreat coming up at the end of January. It mentioned that there will be tridlungs on the last day. Can someone explain what the tridlungs are exactly? Thanks vajra siblings!

Those are lungs or permissions for many secondary practices, for example for Green Tara, and for other mantras.

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Postby Norwegian » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:03 am

makewhisper wrote:Hiya. I got the email today about the longsal rushan retreat coming up at the end of January. It mentioned that there will be tridlungs on the last day. Can someone explain what the tridlungs are exactly? Thanks vajra siblings!

Basically Rinpoche will give transmission (lung) of various practices used in the Dzogchen Community, as well as also giving very brief instruction (tri) on these practices.

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Postby Johnny Dangerous » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:30 am

Can someone help me get on the mailing list? I've tried the Norbunet Google address numerous times and gotten no response. Is there some other list?
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby makewhisper » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:55 am

Virgo wrote:
makewhisper wrote:Hiya. I got the email today about the longsal rushan retreat coming up at the end of January. It mentioned that there will be tridlungs on the last day. Can someone explain what the tridlungs are exactly? Thanks vajra siblings!

Those are lungs or permissions for many secondary practices, for example for Green Tara, and for other mantras.

Kevin
Thank you. Is it the case that if I participate through the webcast I receive the lungs for secondary practices as with the WWTs of guru yoga?

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Postby Norwegian » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:57 am

makewhisper wrote:
Virgo wrote:
makewhisper wrote:Hiya. I got the email today about the longsal rushan retreat coming up at the end of January. It mentioned that there will be tridlungs on the last day. Can someone explain what the tridlungs are exactly? Thanks vajra siblings!

Those are lungs or permissions for many secondary practices, for example for Green Tara, and for other mantras.

Kevin
Thank you. Is it the case that if I participate through the webcast I receive the lungs for secondary practices as with the WWTs of guru yoga?

If you participate in the webcast from beginning til end, then you will receive transmission of the Longsal Rushen teachings of Rinpoche given in this particular retreat, as well as direct introduction - since Rinpoche always gives this - as well as his trilungs at the final day. You will be able to practice all of the things you receive in this retreat, if you participate in the webcast live.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Norwegian » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:59 am

Johnny Dangerous wrote:Can someone help me get on the mailing list? I've tried the Norbunet Google address numerous times and gotten no response. Is there some other list?

Sent a PM.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby makewhisper » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:16 am

Norwegian wrote:
makewhisper wrote:
Virgo wrote:Those are lungs or permissions for many secondary practices, for example for Green Tara, and for other mantras.

Kevin
Thank you. Is it the case that if I participate through the webcast I receive the lungs for secondary practices as with the WWTs of guru yoga?

If you participate in the webcast from beginning til end, then you will receive transmission of the Longsal Rushen teachings of Rinpoche given in this particular retreat, as well as direct introduction - since Rinpoche always gives this - as well as his trilungs at the final day. You will be able to practice all of the things you receive in this retreat, if you participate in the webcast live.
Thank you, Norwegian. Is there a practice that needs to be prepared for to receive direct introduction as with WWT? For example, the WWT I participated in back in November included direct introduction as part of a Guru Nangsi Silnon practice.

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Postby Norwegian » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:22 am

makewhisper wrote:
Norwegian wrote:
makewhisper wrote:Thank you. Is it the case that if I participate through the webcast I receive the lungs for secondary practices as with the WWTs of guru yoga?

If you participate in the webcast from beginning til end, then you will receive transmission of the Longsal Rushen teachings of Rinpoche given in this particular retreat, as well as direct introduction - since Rinpoche always gives this - as well as his trilungs at the final day. You will be able to practice all of the things you receive in this retreat, if you participate in the webcast live.
Thank you, Norwegian. Is there a practice that needs to be prepared for to receive direct introduction as with WWT? For example, the WWT I participated in back in November included direct introduction as part of a Guru Nangsi Silnon practice.

No. Direct introduction is not bound by any specific text. It can be formal (as with the WWT), or it can be informal. It can be elaborate, or extremely unelaborate.

As Rinpoche always says, he always gives direct introduction in every retreat of his. All you need to do is be present (i.e., aware) and pay attention to what he is teaching :)

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Virgo » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:42 am

makewhisper wrote:
Virgo wrote:
makewhisper wrote:Hiya. I got the email today about the longsal rushan retreat coming up at the end of January. It mentioned that there will be tridlungs on the last day. Can someone explain what the tridlungs are exactly? Thanks vajra siblings!

Those are lungs or permissions for many secondary practices, for example for Green Tara, and for other mantras.

Kevin
Thank you. Is it the case that if I participate through the webcast I receive the lungs for secondary practices as with the WWTs of guru yoga?

If you are there on the last day you will receive all the lungs, yes. I like to recommend this video to people about some of the advices that Rinpoche gives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wov-6PQI7pw&t=123s

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Virgo » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:54 am


Some peoples here i think were there in person for that retreat.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby hypa3000 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:31 pm

I've just recently joined DC.

When i login will i be able to watch the full Longsal Rushen retreat live via webcast
or only replays of the Open webcasts?

Or do i need to register for the retreat if i want to watch online either live / replay?

Thanks


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