Vimalamitra cycle

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Vimalamitra cycle

Postby Will » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:16 pm

Malcolm once mentioned a tradition that every 100 years Vimalamitra sends a disciple or comes himself (I forget) to bless & help humanity.

Does anyone know where, on our calendar, the 100 year cycle ends & begins? For example, at the 27th year of our centuries - or when?
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Re: Vimalamitra cycle

Postby Yudron » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:40 pm

Will wrote:Malcolm once mentioned a tradition that every 100 years Vimalamitra sends a disciple or comes himself (I forget) to bless & help humanity.

Does anyone know where, on our calendar, the 100 year cycle ends & begins? For example, at the 27th year of our centuries - or when?


Well the last one was Khenpo Ngaga (Khenpo Ngawang Palzang) 1879 to 1941, so I would imagine we have a ways to go.
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Re: Vimalamitra cycle

Postby Will » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:06 am

Not at all. If the last one hit his majority around 1900, that suggests that around 2000 the present one (who?) became active and will continue so for 30,40, 50 years. So I will posit that the Vimalamitra century turns at the beginning of a new one. So 2100, 2200 etc.
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Re: Vimalamitra cycle

Postby Yudron » Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:31 am

Will wrote:Not at all. If the last one hit his majority around 1900, that suggests that around 2000 the present one (who?) became active and will continue so for 30,40, 50 years. So I will posit that the Vimalamitra century turns at the beginning of a new one. So 2100, 2200 etc.


I hadn't thought of it that way. Sounds good!
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Re: Vimalamitra cycle

Postby Adamantine » Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:15 am

Yeah he's probably active now we just need to recognize him.
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Re: Vimalamitra cycle

Postby ngodrup » Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:35 pm

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Re: Vimalamitra cycle

Postby Yudron » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:57 pm

ngodrup wrote:Yangthang Tulku Rinpoche


Really? I hadn't made note of that. I really hope he lives til at least 100.
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Re: Vimalamitra cycle

Postby Pema Rigdzin » Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:35 pm

Yudron wrote:
ngodrup wrote:Yangthang Tulku Rinpoche


Really? I hadn't made note of that. I really hope he lives til at least 100.

It's mentioned on ODD's website's page for the Kama empowerments. And Gyatrul Rinpoche has mentioned it in the past. I too hope he lives that long. He really does seem to me to be an inconceivable Dzogchen master.
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Re: Vimalamitra cycle

Postby Yeti » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:53 pm

I have also heard, from sources I trust in these matters, that both HH Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche and HH Penor Rinpoche were such emanations of Vimalamitra.
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Re: Vimalamitra cycle

Postby tingdzin » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:46 pm

All the teachers mentioned above seem to be excellent. Really, though, one should not put much stock in someone's having been declared an emanation of an illustrious person, any more than one should accept a "tulku" as a teacher without examining him. Listen carefully to such declarations and you can often hear the sound of an axe being ground in the background.
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Re: Vimalamitra cycle

Postby Yeti » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:45 pm

tingdzin wrote:Listen carefully to such declarations and you can often hear the sound of an axe being ground in the background.

In the cases that I have heard such proclamations this is definitely not so. And it's not done for any gain either. I can only gather it is said to engender greater connection and devotion to the Teacher and teachings being given. And I don't think it was just made up out of thin air.
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