smcj wrote:No, actually there is a functional reason it is kept secret
There's only a functional reason why authentic primordial nonpractice
teachings are self-secret
and self-protected. This reason is grasping. Conceptual reification. As I explained before
. For example, the menngagde task v1
: "Don't focus on anything", has nothing to do with the practice v2
: "Don't focus on anything". Both tasks sounds like the same, but they are different. Let me expand this example: "Don't focus on anything for a while .. and natural looseness is immediate-obvious". If one cannot understand/realise the true meaning of v1
, he cannot understand the true meaning of "immediate-obvious natural looseness
". Maybe he believe he understands the teaching, because he practiced v2
and after that he seems to be naturally loosed
to, but his "natural looseness" has nothing to do with the primordial natural looseness which is meant in the menngagde-teaching. This is just a short example. You can extrapolate this in much bigger dimensions.
It's really a problem in every public dzogchen forum I know, because most of the people in such a forum, have their insights just from v2
(therefore grasping) and calling this "dzogchen". But that's just a copy. And this copy spreads rapidly. It's really hard to discuss with representatives of this copy, because in their eyes, one is an heretic or something else; inverted world. Why this copy spreads rapidly? Because of this artificial tibetan security-drama
, there's no concrete public information about authentic dzogchen; therefore menngagde. Their shot goes to the rear. It's important not to mix up everything, because the representatives of the copy have already mixed up everything.
Therefore, what is really self-secret in authentic primordial nonpractice
teachings? Ones own process of grasping/reified conceptualisation/fabrication. Therefore, the process of ones own grasping/reified conceptualisation/fabrication is the self-protecing mechanism. But that's no problem, because as I said in this message
before, one can learn a lot about this process and one have to learn a lot about this process, before one can understand/realise the true meaning of v1
. Therefore, this self-protection is in fact just wisdom/compassion. There's no need to suppress this natural self-protection through this artificial tibetan drama. What form of "public information about authentic dzogchen
" is needed in our times? More distinctive wisdom from the endoperspective. One has to point out the possible traps of direct experience, rather than to make them secret. But this does not protect against grasping. Even if you know the difference between v1
. Everybody needs to go through. But now you know the tunnel you're in exactly.