Jigme Lingpa's mystical pranayama experience

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Re: Jigme Lingpa's mystical pranayama experience

Postby Pero » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:03 pm

ConradTree wrote:
Pero wrote:Not saying the above is not true also, but the notes say that this is how his abdomened looked like after much practice, a physical sign.


If you have the book, quote the footnote please.


p477 wrote:This shows he had control of his vital essence and that his abdomen looked like a large, round vessel, a physical sign resulting from having done much of this prana practice.
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Re: Jigme Lingpa's mystical pranayama experience

Postby dzogchungpa » Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:39 pm

Pero wrote:
p477 wrote:...his abdomen looked like a large, round vessel...

Mine too!
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Re: Jigme Lingpa's mystical pranayama experience

Postby Pero » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:38 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:
Pero wrote:
p477 wrote:...his abdomen looked like a large, round vessel...

Mine too!

:applause:
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Re: Jigme Lingpa's mystical pranayama experience

Postby Motova » Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:10 am

Malcolm wrote:
ConradTree wrote:You must be referring to this:

http://www.amazon.com/Taking-Result-Pat ... 0861714431

But there is no mention of gourd in it. You can search for words through Amazon.



After one is able to see the color of the vāyu through doing various kinds of practice, when one unifies the prāṇā and apāṇa vayus, it forms the shape of a ball or a gourd. Yogis can see this with their eyes. You and I cannot.

First however you have to get the level of being able to see your prāṇa. Lamdre explains this process very well, but also the treatise on vāyu in the Vima Nyinthig and so on.


Are there any visual phenomena that can be mistaken for seeing the color of the vāyu? Assuming one has no physical problems with their eyes or brain.
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