Including other practices before dedication in Short Tun?

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Hansei
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Including other practices before dedication in Short Tun?

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Does anybody know if it is okay to include other practices before the dedication of merits in the Short Tun?

For instance; after Dopa, doing the short version of Mandarava (starting from Guruyoga), then Odzer Chenma, and then the dedication of merits.
haak0n
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I think its a little too much. Wrathful practice + mandarava or oser chenma doesnt sound like a good combination.
My suggestion is to break up your sessions accordingly, but this is only my opinion.
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haak0n wrote:I think its a little too much. Wrathful practice + mandarava or oser chenma doesnt sound like a good combination.
My suggestion is to break up your sessions accordingly, but this is only my opinion.
Actually, it's quite common to do both in a thun. When discussing practice with different lamas (who are not part of the DC) I've heard various peaceful/wrathful combinations: yamantaka and tara, vajrakilaya and chenrezig, etc. If you're not confident in your lha'i nga rgyal (divine pride), though, I could see not wanting to do both kinds in one sitting.
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Hansei wrote:Does anybody know if it is okay to include other practices before the dedication of merits in the Short Tun?

For instance; after Dopa, doing the short version of Mandarava (starting from Guruyoga), then Odzer Chenma, and then the dedication of merits.
Yes, you are free and there is no problem with this at all.
haak0n
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Finney wrote:
haak0n wrote:I think its a little too much. Wrathful practice + mandarava or oser chenma doesnt sound like a good combination.
My suggestion is to break up your sessions accordingly, but this is only my opinion.
Actually, it's quite common to do both in a thun. When discussing practice with different lamas (who are not part of the DC) I've heard various peaceful/wrathful combinations: yamantaka and tara, vajrakilaya and chenrezig, etc. If you're not confident in your lha'i nga rgyal (divine pride), though, I could see not wanting to do both kinds in one sitting.

I think its the opposite. When I first started in the DC I always wanted to do a little of many different practices every day for their relative benefits.
Now I more feel like 'one practice covers all'. Thats more confidence no?
Malcolm
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haak0n wrote:
Finney wrote:
haak0n wrote:I think its a little too much. Wrathful practice + mandarava or oser chenma doesnt sound like a good combination.
My suggestion is to break up your sessions accordingly, but this is only my opinion.
Actually, it's quite common to do both in a thun. When discussing practice with different lamas (who are not part of the DC) I've heard various peaceful/wrathful combinations: yamantaka and tara, vajrakilaya and chenrezig, etc. If you're not confident in your lha'i nga rgyal (divine pride), though, I could see not wanting to do both kinds in one sitting.

I think its the opposite. When I first started in the DC I always wanted to do a little of many different practices every day for their relative benefits.
Now I more feel like 'one practice covers all'. Thats more confidence no?
We have different conditions, so we work with circumstances.
Hansei
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Thank you all.
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