Enochian wrote:Ok let me put it in another way.
If you 100% NEED a transmission to understand your natural state, it would NOT be natural would it?
Okay you are using natural state in its literal form. According to Atiyoga, your deluded habit of grasping is your unnatural state, because the samsaric mode is distorted. The natural state is like the background that a samsaric consciousness by def can't notice. The teacher is a relic of the natural state, a nirmanakaya, and the manner of pointing is samboghakaya, then you seeing what is pointed at is dharmakaya Samantabhadra the natural state free of distortion. Do you agree with this?