Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
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Today ChNN Rinpoche clarified for one more time with the following words exactly that:
"Zen is Sutra teaching.
Dzogchen is part of Vajrayana".
Cheers!
"Zen is Sutra teaching.
Dzogchen is part of Vajrayana".
Cheers!
The sound of s i l e n c e.....
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Dronma wrote:Today ChNN Rinpoche clarified for one more time with the following words exactly that:
"Zen is Sutra teaching.
Dzogchen is part of Vajrayana".
Cheers!
Yes, of course.
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He gave a lot of the lung empowerments today and I think at one point he said he had transmitted all that was in the Tun and Ganapujas book he was holding.
I thought he had, but to be sure, did I hear that correctly ?
I thought he had, but to be sure, did I hear that correctly ?
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Point of clarification requested. I've read:
But for webcasts such as this one that didn't include a more formal sems khrid/rig pa'i ngo sprod, is it considered a direct introduction/ww transmission for the purposes of permission to purchase and study books and so forth?
andMalcolm wrote:Always.alpha wrote: But does RInpoche ever give pointing out instructions or direct introductions to rigpa as part of a webcast?
Malcolm wrote:Whenever Rinpoche is talking about Dzogchen, he is giving direct introduction.alpha wrote:
Would it be accurate to say that WHATEVER he says is actually pointing out?
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But for webcasts such as this one that didn't include a more formal sems khrid/rig pa'i ngo sprod, is it considered a direct introduction/ww transmission for the purposes of permission to purchase and study books and so forth?
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Yesterday he gave the "Yeshe Zangtal", seems formal enough to me.
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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
ChNN Rinpoche gave Direct Transmission yesterday with the experience of Emptiness, the famous Yeshe Sangthal.Greg wrote: But for webcasts such as this one that didn't include a more formal sems khrid/rig pa'i ngo sprod, is it considered a direct introduction/ww transmission for the purposes of permission to purchase and study books and so forth?
There are two more methods of Direct Transmission with Clarity and with Sensation.
But Rinpoche does not transmit through them very often. He mostly uses Yeshe Sangthal.
However, the recognition of Rigpa (when happens) is exactly the same through all three of them!
The sound of s i l e n c e.....
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Thanks. Would be interested in a summary of what was transmitted, if possible. Watched the whole webcast but not really sure what you are talking about.heart wrote:Yesterday he gave the "Yeshe Zangtal", seems formal enough to me.
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haha there seems to have been no recognition of rigpa on my partDronma wrote:ChNN Rinpoche gave Direct Transmission yesterday with the experience of Emptiness, the famous Yeshe Sangthal.Greg wrote: But for webcasts such as this one that didn't include a more formal sems khrid/rig pa'i ngo sprod, is it considered a direct introduction/ww transmission for the purposes of permission to purchase and study books and so forth?
There are two more methods of Direct Transmission with Clarity and with Sensation.
But Rinpoche does not transmit through them very often. He mostly uses Yeshe Sangthal.
However, the recognition of Rigpa (when happens) is exactly the same through all three of them!
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Don't worry, relax!Greg wrote: Thanks. Would be interested in a summary of what was transmitted, if possible. Watched the whole webcast but not really sure what you are talking about.
Rinpoche transmits everything again and again always at the end of every retreat.
In 3 days from now a new webcast starts!
The sound of s i l e n c e.....
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This webcast contained formal sems khrid/rig pa'i ngo sprod yesterday morning.Greg wrote:Point of clarification requested. I've read:
andMalcolm wrote:Always.alpha wrote: But does RInpoche ever give pointing out instructions or direct introductions to rigpa as part of a webcast?
Malcolm wrote:Whenever Rinpoche is talking about Dzogchen, he is giving direct introduction.alpha wrote:
Would it be accurate to say that WHATEVER he says is actually pointing out?
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But for webcasts such as this one that didn't include a more formal sems khrid/rig pa'i ngo sprod, is it considered a direct introduction/ww transmission for the purposes of permission to purchase and study books and so forth?
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Honesty is a GREAT qualification!Greg wrote: haha there seems to have been no recognition of rigpa on my part
The sound of s i l e n c e.....
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Thanks - it seems to have . . .not registered, or something. When was that, exactly? Understandable if you don't want to elaborate on public forum.Malcolm wrote: This webcast contained formal sems khrid/rig pa'i ngo sprod yesterday morning.
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Greg wrote:Thanks - it seems to have . . .not registered, or something. When was that, exactly? Understandable if you don't want to elaborate on public forum.Malcolm wrote: This webcast contained formal sems khrid/rig pa'i ngo sprod yesterday morning.
When he gave transmission in the last 45 minutes of the session.
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So the whole episode of explaning how to do the practice with the thigle, then.Malcolm wrote:Greg wrote:Thanks - it seems to have . . .not registered, or something. When was that, exactly? Understandable if you don't want to elaborate on public forum.Malcolm wrote: This webcast contained formal sems khrid/rig pa'i ngo sprod yesterday morning.
When he gave transmission in the last 45 minutes of the session.
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I've checked the link and the times of the teachings. Does anyone know whether or not there are to be webcasts of the teachings and, if there are webcasts, whether those viewing the webcasts in real time will also receive the Jnanadhakini transmissions? No onformation bearing on this seems to be available. In the event that the teachings are promulgated via webcast, I assume that the webcasts will be closed rather than open ones. The question is whether there will be webcasts at all.oldbob wrote:New info ref Jnnadakini Retreat
For more information about the July 4-10 Jnanadhakini Retreat with Chögyal Namkhai Norbu including link to updated retreat schedule, go to:
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Dukkham eva hi, na koci dukkhito,
kaarako na, kiriyaa va vijjati,
atthi nibbuti, na nibbuto pumaa,
maggam atthi, gamako na vijjati
Suffering there certainly is, but no sufferer,
no doer, though certainly the deed is found.
peace is achieved, but no-one's appeased,
the way is walked, but no walker's to be found.
- Visuddhimagga XVI, 90
kaarako na, kiriyaa va vijjati,
atthi nibbuti, na nibbuto pumaa,
maggam atthi, gamako na vijjati
Suffering there certainly is, but no sufferer,
no doer, though certainly the deed is found.
peace is achieved, but no-one's appeased,
the way is walked, but no walker's to be found.
- Visuddhimagga XVI, 90
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I've made a spreadsheet of all the lungs for the past few sessions, including today's. If anyone would find it useful as a checklist, please PM me your email address.
It follows the list in the mantras book with additions.
There may be a few mistooks so someone casting an experienced eye over it may be useful.
I've assumed that where, as today, he spelled out aspects of the Tuns and Ganapujas related to practices, mantras, deities and protectors, they are OK to accept as lungs.
It follows the list in the mantras book with additions.
There may be a few mistooks so someone casting an experienced eye over it may be useful.
I've assumed that where, as today, he spelled out aspects of the Tuns and Ganapujas related to practices, mantras, deities and protectors, they are OK to accept as lungs.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Rinpoche seemed very gentle and sweet today especially when reading and singing. Did this seem new to anyone else or has he always been like that and I didn't notice?
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That, and every single thing Rinpoche does and says is transmission.Greg wrote: So the whole episode of explaning how to do the practice with the thigle, then.
It is not always necessary to have a ritualized symbolic introduction.
"All phenomena of samsara depend on the mind, so when the essence of mind is purified, samsara is purified. Since the phenomena of nirvana depend on the pristine consciousness of vidyā, because one remains in the immediacy of vidyā, buddhahood arises on its own. All critical points are summarized with those two." - Longchenpa
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What is the best book of his elaborating on this practice?Malcolm wrote:Greg wrote:Thanks - it seems to have . . .not registered, or something. When was that, exactly? Understandable if you don't want to elaborate on public forum.Malcolm wrote: This webcast contained formal sems khrid/rig pa'i ngo sprod yesterday morning.
When he gave transmission in the last 45 minutes of the session.
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OOps didn't mean to start such a discussion on vegetarianism, just a simple clarification. Anyways.
Anyone know if Rinpoche likes something in particular that may be a good gift? Or maybe where to get a traditional scarf?
Also if this is allowed on a public forum: when doing the experience of emptiness with 6 Ah's, is it eyes open or closed? If this question is inappropriate, please delete, it doesn't seem to specific to me, but I'd hate to break samaya. Thank you.
Anyone know if Rinpoche likes something in particular that may be a good gift? Or maybe where to get a traditional scarf?
Also if this is allowed on a public forum: when doing the experience of emptiness with 6 Ah's, is it eyes open or closed? If this question is inappropriate, please delete, it doesn't seem to specific to me, but I'd hate to break samaya. Thank you.