Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:23 pm
All great posts.
Nice to see this thread come alive, facing some of the issues of the DC.
Everyone describes the elephant from their point of view, like the blind wise men in the story, depending on what parts they touched.
I think that transmission depends on faith and devotion: the a-tuning of the student to the Teacher.
Please note the point about Ven. Jigme Lingpa's transmission / permissions from the omniscient Ven. Longchenpa.
So if with tears in the eyes, and your arm hairs standing straight up (2 signs of heart devotion) if you ask ChNNR for transmission / permission at ANY time - perhaps you will get it.
This has nothing to do with what his physical body, in this incarnation, is doing at the time. This is my piece of the elephant.
I have also been standing 1 meter from Rinpoche when someone asked him, "Can you get lung transmission from a recording?"
Rinpoche paused a moment and then said, "Yes, it is all sound," and then rolled his eyes up. This occurred at Tseygyalgar, on the upper land, many years ago. There were several witnesses.
Maybe he has since changed his mind.
Perhaps there are several personalities, in play, who teach different things at different times, just to keep things interesting.
Yes, I am back in the States, having survived 2 months in Margarita. You don't want to know, but I may address the issues in a separate thread.
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