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Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:25 am
by KonchokZoepa
Hi, does anyone know this Lama.

What is the name of his home monastery and is it in Assam?

does he uphold the complete Vima Nyingtik cycle?

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:42 pm
by Malcolm
KonchokZoepa wrote:Hi, does anyone know this Lama.

What is the name of his home monastery and is it in Assam?

does he uphold the complete Vima Nyingtik cycle?

Yes.

Zangdog Palri

Yes.

he is the son of Kunzang Dechen Lingpa, and is an excellent teacher.

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:19 pm
by KonchokZoepa
thanks Malcolm for the info :smile:

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:24 am
by Tsultrim T.
I went to a teaching and empowerment he gave locally a few years ago on Chod and Throma and I was impressed. In talking with him afterwards he seemed like a kind and genuine lama.

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:54 pm
by treehuggingoctopus
(Apologies for the necro:)

Has Rinpoche ever taught in Europe?

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:51 pm
by Josef
He is one my main lamas.
He's wonderful and overflows with bodhicitta.

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:46 pm
by treehuggingoctopus
Josef wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:51 pm He is one my main lamas.
He's wonderful and overflows with bodhicitta.
Thank you, Josef. PM sent.

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:23 pm
by kirtu
Unfortunately he is currently forbidden from teaching in the United States (and has been for years) because of issues that DHS has with classifying people who live in Assam.

Hopefully he has been able to teach elsewhere in the past few years.

Kirt

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:55 am
by jnanasutra
He changed my life. No doubt about it.

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:07 am
by treehuggingoctopus
kirtu wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:23 pm Unfortunately he is currently forbidden from teaching in the United States (and has been for years) because of issues that DHS has with classifying people who live in Assam.

Hopefully he has been able to teach elsewhere in the past few years.
That is both very sad and quite surprising. In what way is Assam legally different from other regions of India, I wonder? Hopefully the EU has different regulations.

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:59 am
by Malcolm
kirtu wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:23 pm Unfortunately he is currently forbidden from teaching in the United States (and has been for years) because of issues that DHS has with classifying people who live in Assam.

Hopefully he has been able to teach elsewhere in the past few years.

Kirt
No, it is because they won’t let him travel with more than one other person.

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:42 pm
by kirtu
Malcolm wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:59 am
kirtu wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:23 pm Unfortunately he is currently forbidden from teaching in the United States (and has been for years) because of issues that DHS has with classifying people who live in Assam.

Hopefully he has been able to teach elsewhere in the past few years.

Kirt
No, it is because they won’t let him travel with more than one other person.
A mutual friend told me that the issue was that DHS classified all the people (the monks and nuns) who are with him in Assam as potential terrorists. The issue being that DHS has simply decided to blanket classify people from Assam in this way.

If it were merely an issue of not being able to travel with another person then that could be remedied (although he might not want to do that since it would mean leaving his monastics in India). He could travel with a group of western students.

Unless you mean that the US is insisting that he literally has to travel completely by himself - which is not a travel restriction I have ever heard of.

Kirt

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:49 pm
by Malcolm
kirtu wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:42 pm
Malcolm wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:59 am
kirtu wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:23 pm Unfortunately he is currently forbidden from teaching in the United States (and has been for years) because of issues that DHS has with classifying people who live in Assam.

Hopefully he has been able to teach elsewhere in the past few years.

Kirt
No, it is because they won’t let him travel with more than one other person.
A mutual friend told me that the issue was that DHS classified all the people (the monks and nuns) who are with him in Assam as potential terrorists. The issue being that DHS has simply decided to blanket classify people from Assam in this way.

If it were merely an issue of not being able to travel with another person then that could be remedied (although he might not want to do that since it would mean leaving his monastics in India). He could travel with a group of western students.

Unless you mean that the US is insisting that he literally has to travel completely by himself - which is not a travel restriction I have ever heard of.

Kirt
I am very familiar with the matter. When the Obama Admin came in, they placed heavy restrictions in religious workers visas, contra the Bush era policies which were surprisingly forgiving. Thus, they would not approve the Dungsey Rinpoche's chod group, and would issue no more than two visa. One person beside himself was not sufficient for the healing chod tour, and the legals fees were mounting into the thousands. Thus, they dropped the issue.

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:58 pm
by amanitamusc
Malcolm wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:49 pm
kirtu wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:42 pm
Malcolm wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:59 am

No, it is because they won’t let him travel with more than one other person.
A mutual friend told me that the issue was that DHS classified all the people (the monks and nuns) who are with him in Assam as potential terrorists. The issue being that DHS has simply decided to blanket classify people from Assam in this way.

If it were merely an issue of not being able to travel with another person then that could be remedied (although he might not want to do that since it would mean leaving his monastics in India). He could travel with a group of western students.

Unless you mean that the US is insisting that he literally has to travel completely by himself - which is not a travel restriction I have ever heard of.

Kirt
I am very familiar with the matter. When the Obama Admin came in, they placed heavy restrictions in religious workers visas, contra the Bush era policies which were surprisingly forgiving. Thus, they would not approve the Dungsey Rinpoche's chod group, and would issue no more than two visa. One person beside himself was not sufficient for the healing chod tour, and the legals fees were mounting into the thousands. Thus, they dropped the issue.
What was up obama's ass? Just making nice with china?
I know he canceled meetings with HHDL.
I noticed i saw more of my overseas Lama's when bush was in and when
obama came in the doors were closed.

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:15 pm
by Josef
Malcolm wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:49 pm
kirtu wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:42 pm
Malcolm wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:59 am

No, it is because they won’t let him travel with more than one other person.
A mutual friend told me that the issue was that DHS classified all the people (the monks and nuns) who are with him in Assam as potential terrorists. The issue being that DHS has simply decided to blanket classify people from Assam in this way.

If it were merely an issue of not being able to travel with another person then that could be remedied (although he might not want to do that since it would mean leaving his monastics in India). He could travel with a group of western students.

Unless you mean that the US is insisting that he literally has to travel completely by himself - which is not a travel restriction I have ever heard of.

Kirt
I am very familiar with the matter. When the Obama Admin came in, they placed heavy restrictions in religious workers visas, contra the Bush era policies which were surprisingly forgiving. Thus, they would not approve the Dungsey Rinpoche's chod group, and would issue no more than two visa. One person beside himself was not sufficient for the healing chod tour, and the legals fees were mounting into the thousands. Thus, they dropped the issue.
I too had an event set up in Boston with Rinpoche when this happened.
It was in the summer 2010 and DHS simply shut them out.

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:26 pm
by amanitamusc
Josef wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:15 pm
Malcolm wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:49 pm
kirtu wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:42 pm

A mutual friend told me that the issue was that DHS classified all the people (the monks and nuns) who are with him in Assam as potential terrorists. The issue being that DHS has simply decided to blanket classify people from Assam in this way.

If it were merely an issue of not being able to travel with another person then that could be remedied (although he might not want to do that since it would mean leaving his monastics in India). He could travel with a group of western students.

Unless you mean that the US is insisting that he literally has to travel completely by himself - which is not a travel restriction I have ever heard of.

Kirt
I am very familiar with the matter. When the Obama Admin came in, they placed heavy restrictions in religious workers visas, contra the Bush era policies which were surprisingly forgiving. Thus, they would not approve the Dungsey Rinpoche's chod group, and would issue no more than two visa. One person beside himself was not sufficient for the healing chod tour, and the legals fees were mounting into the thousands. Thus, they dropped the issue.
I too had an event set up in Boston with Rinpoche when this happened.
It was in the summer 2010 and DHS simply shut them out.
Thanks obama. 2010 cost $56.4 billion for DHS.

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:55 pm
by Malcolm
amanitamusc wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:58 pm
Malcolm wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:49 pm
kirtu wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:42 pm

A mutual friend told me that the issue was that DHS classified all the people (the monks and nuns) who are with him in Assam as potential terrorists. The issue being that DHS has simply decided to blanket classify people from Assam in this way.

If it were merely an issue of not being able to travel with another person then that could be remedied (although he might not want to do that since it would mean leaving his monastics in India). He could travel with a group of western students.

Unless you mean that the US is insisting that he literally has to travel completely by himself - which is not a travel restriction I have ever heard of.

Kirt
I am very familiar with the matter. When the Obama Admin came in, they placed heavy restrictions in religious workers visas, contra the Bush era policies which were surprisingly forgiving. Thus, they would not approve the Dungsey Rinpoche's chod group, and would issue no more than two visa. One person beside himself was not sufficient for the healing chod tour, and the legals fees were mounting into the thousands. Thus, they dropped the issue.
What was up obama's ass? Just making nice with china?
I know he canceled meetings with HHDL.
I noticed i saw more of my overseas Lama's when bush was in and when
obama came in the doors were closed.
Hillary.

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:06 pm
by Sherab Rigdrol
Hopefully this will be one of the Obama admin's policies that Trump will rollback. I'd love to meet and receive teachings from him!!!

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:33 pm
by amanitamusc
Is KDL's body in Assam or Arunachal Pradesh?

Re: Dungse Rigzin Dorje Rinpoche

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:38 pm
by Malcolm
amanitamusc wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:33 pm Is KDL's body in Assam or Arunachal Pradesh?
It is at Zangdog Palri in Arunachal Pradesh, AFAIK.