Zabmo Nangdon to be published by Shambhala
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What of the hardship of the Kagyu ( and by implication, all other) forefathers and foremothers who suffered so much to bring the Dharma to Tibet? They didn't begrudge a few dollars , or a lot of gold, in search of the oral instructions of the tantras. Don't forget their hardships - it is because of them that we can have access to the texts today.
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I like the way they think!dzogchungpa wrote:BTW, not only do you need to have received the empowerment to buy or read these books, you must also have received the reading transmission, which apparently takes 3 days:Norwegian wrote:I think people are mostly referring to their Guhyagarbha trilogy, which costs $340 total.
http://www.berotsana.org/GG-tantra
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
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"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Re: Zabmo Nangdon to be published by Shambhala
From their site:Sherab Dorje wrote:I like the way they think!dzogchungpa wrote:BTW, not only do you need to have received the empowerment to buy or read these books, you must also have received the reading transmission, which apparently takes 3 days:Norwegian wrote:I think people are mostly referring to their Guhyagarbha trilogy, which costs $340 total.
http://www.berotsana.org/GG-tantra
"Comments - Restricted Items and Quantities
If your items are restricted, please provide the following information:
(1) date of empowerment/wang,
(2) name of lama giving empowerment,
(3) date of oral transmission/lung,
(4) name of lama giving transmission, and/or
(5) name of qualified lama giving you permission to read or listen to the book, transcript, and/or CD without the above items (1)-(4)."
/magnus
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"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Zabmo Nangdon to be published by Shambhala
heart,
This is Berotsana's general requirements, but some of their items have more specific requirements. In the case of their Guhyagarbha series, you must have the empowerment of Shitro, you must have the empowerment of Guhyagarbha, and you must have the transmission of the Guhyagarbha root tantra, and you must have the transmission of the commentary texts, and the permission of a qualified lama. Not any "or" to be found.
Also, writing about an upcoming Guhyagarbha event, Berotsana has this to say: "Those who attend (their Guhyagarbha empowerment with root tantra and commentary text transmissions) will receive the empowerment of the One-Hundred Peaceful and Wrathful Deities, or zhitro wang, and the reading transmissions. Both are required to practice and study the Guhyagarbha Tantra and several associated commentaries"
This is Berotsana's general requirements, but some of their items have more specific requirements. In the case of their Guhyagarbha series, you must have the empowerment of Shitro, you must have the empowerment of Guhyagarbha, and you must have the transmission of the Guhyagarbha root tantra, and you must have the transmission of the commentary texts, and the permission of a qualified lama. Not any "or" to be found.
Also, writing about an upcoming Guhyagarbha event, Berotsana has this to say: "Those who attend (their Guhyagarbha empowerment with root tantra and commentary text transmissions) will receive the empowerment of the One-Hundred Peaceful and Wrathful Deities, or zhitro wang, and the reading transmissions. Both are required to practice and study the Guhyagarbha Tantra and several associated commentaries"
Re: Zabmo Nangdon to be published by Shambhala
I bought one of those books with only empowerment and my Guru's permission, something I clearly said while ordering it.Norwegian wrote:heart,
This is Berotsana's general requirements, but some of their items have more specific requirements. In the case of their Guhyagarbha series, you must have the empowerment of Shitro, you must have the empowerment of Guhyagarbha, and you must have the transmission of the Guhyagarbha root tantra, and you must have the transmission of the commentary texts, and the permission of a qualified lama. Not any "or" to be found.
Also, writing about an upcoming Guhyagarbha event, Berotsana has this to say: "Those who attend (their Guhyagarbha empowerment with root tantra and commentary text transmissions) will receive the empowerment of the One-Hundred Peaceful and Wrathful Deities, or zhitro wang, and the reading transmissions. Both are required to practice and study the Guhyagarbha Tantra and several associated commentaries"
/magnus
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Zabmo Nangdon to be published by Shambhala
Well, I'm just typing out what their homepage said.
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Also Mipham's commentary on the Guhyagharba (Luminous Essence) is available without any restrictions.Norwegian wrote:Well, I'm just typing out what their homepage said.
/magnus
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Zabmo Nangdon to be published by Shambhala
hi
has this been actually published? could you provide a link? shambala books does not mention a book under this name?
was translated somewhere else? even by a non publisher?
has this been actually published? could you provide a link? shambala books does not mention a book under this name?
was translated somewhere else? even by a non publisher?
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Re: Zabmo Nangdon to be published by Shambhala
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Re: Zabmo Nangdon to be published by Shambhala
Thank you Cone. Just to give a bit more of perspective:conebeckham wrote: ↑Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:19 pm "Zabmo Nangdon" means something like "The Profound Inner Meaning."
It's a text written by the 3rd Karmapa, Rangjung Dorje, and it lays out the underpinnings of the Vajrayana view, according to the Karma Kagyu.
It's one of three major texts that is studied to learn about the basis and details of tantric practice, especially by Shedra students. The other two are the "Two Chapter Tantra" (Hevajra Tantra) and the Uttaratantrashastra/Ratnagotravibhaga of Maitreya.
The commentary by Kongtrul Lodro Taye is studied in tandem with the Karmapa's root text.
In the Zabmo Nangdon you will find information about the body and it's relationship to the environment. There's a lot of astrology, as well as the "subtle body" information relating to the Channels, Winds, and Drops. Also, a lot of discussion about Buddhanature as basis, on the path, and as result.
These three texts - Uttaratantrashastra, Two Chapters and Profound Inner Meaning - are the "philosophical" side of the core (Kamtsang) Kagyü teachings, as it were. On the practice side of things one would approach those same topics (in order) as sutra mahamudra (Ocean of Definite Meaning), development stage deity practice (Phagmo Namshe - Complete Instructions of Vajravahari) and the Six Dharmas of Naropa (any of the practice manuals).
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Yes—those are the practical instructions, and would be combined with Kamtsang Ngondro, Phagmo’s Sadhana and liturgical verses of the Six Yogas.Dharmasagara wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:58 pmThank you Cone. Just to give a bit more of perspective:conebeckham wrote: ↑Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:19 pm "Zabmo Nangdon" means something like "The Profound Inner Meaning."
It's a text written by the 3rd Karmapa, Rangjung Dorje, and it lays out the underpinnings of the Vajrayana view, according to the Karma Kagyu.
It's one of three major texts that is studied to learn about the basis and details of tantric practice, especially by Shedra students. The other two are the "Two Chapter Tantra" (Hevajra Tantra) and the Uttaratantrashastra/Ratnagotravibhaga of Maitreya.
The commentary by Kongtrul Lodro Taye is studied in tandem with the Karmapa's root text.
In the Zabmo Nangdon you will find information about the body and it's relationship to the environment. There's a lot of astrology, as well as the "subtle body" information relating to the Channels, Winds, and Drops. Also, a lot of discussion about Buddhanature as basis, on the path, and as result.
These three texts - Uttaratantrashastra, Two Chapters and Profound Inner Meaning - are the "philosophical" side of the core (Kamtsang) Kagyü teachings, as it were. On the practice side of things one would approach those same topics (in order) as sutra mahamudra (Ocean of Definite Meaning), development stage deity practice (Phagmo Namshe - Complete Instructions of Vajravahari) and the Six Dharmas of Naropa (any of the practice manuals).
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།
"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།
"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")