Lojong as " stealing " ?

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Re: Lojong as " stealing " ?

Postby Simon E. » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:31 am

lobster wrote:
Take Lobster with a dash of salt


and a squeeze of lemon . . .

I will also be providing postings on retroactive karma - why praying for your present state from your future Enlightened Buddha state is not kicking in . . .

. . . and now back to the Long John practice . . .
http://web.archive.org/web/20070210031327/http://pages.britishlibrary.net/edjason/eight/

Its not clear to me how this furthers the discussion...
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Re: Lojong as " stealing " ?

Postby JKhedrup » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:35 pm

The link itself led to the 8 verses I think. But the comments were a bit confusing. Hey, not everyone gets my sense of humour either.
In order to ensure my mind never comes under the power of the self-cherishing attitude,
I must obtain control over my own mind.
Therefore, amongst all empowerments, the empowerment that gives me control over my mind is the best,
and I have received the most profound empowerment with this teaching.
-Atisha Dipamkara
brtsal ba'i bkhra drin
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Re: Lojong as " stealing " ?

Postby lobster » Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:04 pm

Its not clear to me how this furthers the discussion...


When we have our knickers in a twist we need further Long John practice.
Sorry to steal everyone's seriously precious time :oops:

Perhaps we can rob from the rich (Buddhas, the enlightened etc) and give to the poor of dharma? :woohoo:
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Re: Lojong as " stealing " ?

Postby Son of Buddha » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:31 pm

Simon E. wrote:I have no personal experience of formal Lojong...On another forum I have just read a startling debate where one of the participants describes Lojong as " stealing the karma of others " and " thwarting their negative desires "..

Any comments ?


I didnt know you could steal someone elses trash(negative karma)

Lojong/Tonglen is essentially growing your own mind.its a practice that helps reverse ego by exchanging your self for others.its the practice of rebilitateing you.


Ideally you are not stealing,you are takeing others trash and giving them gold in return.
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