JKhedrup wrote:I hope not. If the American press caught wind of it they'd equate it with the Unification Church for sure... It would create a lot of misunderstandings.
dzogchungpa wrote:JKhedrup wrote:I hope not. If the American press caught wind of it they'd equate it with the Unification Church for sure... It would create a lot of misunderstandings.
I think a mass Buddhist divorce would go over much better in the States.
Luke.A wrote:I think that the crux of the matter in all these discussions about Taiwanese Buddhism and its brand of modern Buddhism is that these masters are struggling to make Buddhism relevant to society outside of a large but quickly aging and mostly female segment of the population. I understand that from a purely traditional point of view, the notion of Buddhist weddings is perplexing.
But I want to argue that for the most part, people in Taiwan, the rest of East Asia and the West (with some exception of course) could not give less of a damn about traditional Buddhism, and (I would further argue) for legitimate reasons; most forms of traditional Buddhism are not primarily interested in or concerned with helping foster a happier, more harmonious society.
But why did creating a better society become such a priority in modern times?
It's an open secret that thou shouldst market what the masses want to see and hear, no?I think the problem is that they are not really making it relevant to people's lives, they are just perpetuating some kind of groupthink.
I have looked at a number of Asian Buddhist groups who sport grand masters claiming to be modern, progressive and scientific (as if those are necessarily virtues) yet in most cases it's the same old thing when you get past the flannel: ding ding, kerching kerching and lots of irrelevancies which fly in the face of those claims -the minutiae of pure lands, or obscurities from certain sutras, for example, whilst sweet, are the kind of theoretical stuff which I personally can't see the relevance of when it comes to real life situations. Oh, and you must accept and be subservient.
Better that things are taught which can change people's lives and attitudes: meditation, how to realise selflessless and overcome suffering. How to deal with psychological ailments, how to overcome fear, guilt, bereavement, obsession, neurosis. Practical methods. But that might be a little bit too radical.
Purely my own 2 c as on outsider, no offence intended. Btw, the same can be said for the Tibetan tradition - at least in Asia - too. I am not partisan.
Indrajala wrote:As far as I know this is a relatively recent development.
Luke.A wrote: Now, this wedding business and other similar innovations are exactly that; being proactive about trying to create a happier, more harmonious society where human flourishing is possible outside of monastic vows or a stringent upāsaka lifestyle.
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