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State of Japanese Buddhism

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby Astus » Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:42 pm

Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.



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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby Indrajala » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:37 am

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby DGA » Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:17 am

Can't speak to what goes on in Japan. Here's my own experience in North America (in Tendai-shu).

When I took the bodhisattva vows (in English), we were given some instruction on what the eight major & 48 minor vows meant. We reflected on these as a group and individually for some time. This is quite different from the experience in Japan that Huseng describes.

Broadly speaking, there are two schools of thought on this. One is closer to the post-Meiji reality of Japanese Buddhism, and to the living situation of most North American Buddhists: don't cause suffering by means of sexuality. (Cultivate long-term monogamous relationships, for instance; keep your promises; and so on.) This is the view of my teacher, Monshin Naamon. I myself am a married householder.

Another approach is taken at California Tendai Monastery, led by Keisho Leary: celibacy.

It's hard to generalize about such things, but it seems to me that attitudes toward the precepts and their implementation in North America and Europe is an important departure from Japanese norms. Perhaps for the better in some respects.

Here's what I'm talking about, just to be completely transparent:

http://www.tendai.org/index.php?id=46

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby Indrajala » Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:37 am

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby pueraeternus » Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:57 pm

If you believe certain words, you believe their hidden arguments. When you believe something is right or wrong, true of false, you believe the assumptions in the words which express the arguments. Such assumptions are often full of holes, but remain most precious to the convinced.

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby Indrajala » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:46 am

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby Dodatsu » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:51 am

Contemplating the power of Tathagata's Primal Vow,
One sees that no foolish being who encounters it passes by in vain.
When a person single-heartedly practices the saying of the Name alone,
It brings quickly to fullness and perfection [in that person] the great treasure ocean of true and real virtues.
- Shinran Shonin

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby Indrajala » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:11 am

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby Dodatsu » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:27 am

I don't expect you to either, but the tone of your comments are just down right offensive, and i hope you realize that.
Contemplating the power of Tathagata's Primal Vow,
One sees that no foolish being who encounters it passes by in vain.
When a person single-heartedly practices the saying of the Name alone,
It brings quickly to fullness and perfection [in that person] the great treasure ocean of true and real virtues.
- Shinran Shonin

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby Indrajala » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:29 am

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby tktru » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:51 am

IMO If a social change were to occur in terms of teaching aspirant priests in terms of the Vinaya, wouldn't that introduction would be too sudden and a lot to take in for the next generation? And in turn would it not turn Japan's view of Buddhism to be over-dogmatic? The Bodhisattva precepts that Tendai/Shingon priests take as well as open interpretation, study and discussion is always a good start in helping priests understand these teachings.

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby Indrajala » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:34 am

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby Su DongPo » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:33 pm

I wonder if Japan is ripe for a Buddhist revival.

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby Indrajala » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:49 pm

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby Su DongPo » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:12 pm

Yes, but sometimes at the nadir something new can be found. Some faithful adherence to the Dharma could provide a model and inspire others to inquire about their history and, hopefully, lead to revitalized institutions, or as someone has noted, open the door to new traditions, including Theravada.

Just saying. I have no special information, but for those of you devoted to the Dharma in Japan, I would suggest that being too close to that which disheartens may make it hard to see such possibilities.

A Japanese Buddhist charity such as Taiwan's Tzu Chi could, over some years, change both practices and perceptions.

Best wishes,
Su Dongpo

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Re: Should indiviuals be married and be monk?

Postby Tatsuo » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:00 pm

I don't agree, that Japanese Buddhism is degenerated. It could use some more support after the destructions of the Meiji period until the end of World War II, but I see many positive developments. The negative image of religions may come from negative examples like Aum Shinrikyō, but also has roots in the ideology of State-Shinto.
There was a discussion about that topic between Huseng and myself in .

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