Johnny Dangerous wrote:Our culture thrives on excess, suggesting that maybe sanity should be applied to sexual tastes I think strikes many people as 'prude'. As much pleasure as I can have, all the time please. I want a 24/7 pleasure IV.
This is indeed often the case, at least with my generation. I think if you speak about continence a lot of people will respond with mockery. Getting laid is glorified as a primary pursuit of life and plenty of commodities cater to such a desire. I think the primary reason dance clubs exist is to find a partner.
I've also noticed that a lot of young males feel ashamed of themselves if they're in their twenties and haven't been intimate with anyone yet. A lot of the pop culture mocks such individuals as losers, so there is a lot of social pressure alongside the physical urges.
Of course it's not just sexual orientation or practices though, we are encouraged to make identities of everything in this culture.
That's true, too. Sexuality encompasses identities many people strongly identify with. Strait, gay, lesbian, bisexual, etc... many become emotionally invested in these identities and others use them for other motives both social and political. Historically you can see plenty of examples where, for example, homosexuality was generally a part of daily life but nobody had a specific label for it and it never turned into a social or political identity.
So, addressing lust and trying to overcome it becomes a matter of also detaching oneself from social and political identities. The latter might actually be more difficult than the former.
I've also see alot of Buddhists who don't take the fifth precept as seriously as i'd think either, it's not like we are exactly encouraged to have self control in our daily lives - like I said, pleasure IV please.
I think unless your alcohol causes you to go insane or is a huge source of craving, lust is far more dangerous, yet it is overlooked and seldom brought up as an issue in the western Buddhist world as far as I see. Liberation is often framed as a matter of philosophy and meditation rather than lifestyle changes. This again perhaps speaks about the social leanings and values of many Buddhists in the west. It is in stark contrast to what you see in much of Asia as I outlined above.