Sönam wrote:Once Buddha Shakyamuni realized unlightenment he gave a direct introduction, an ultimate teaching ... After which he turned two more times the Dharma Wheel ... who lead to the different Mahayana paths.
I'm still not following your logic, Sonam. If the 4NT are "direct" and "ultimate" teaching, what need was there for the Dharma Wheel to be turned again? Why the need for all the Buddhist schools with their different assumptions and methodologies?
Different strokes for different folks. While I admit that it is true that the 4NT includes the 8NP as the method, it would be hard to prove that the Buddha would exclude any method or assumption that allowed for the development of Right effort, Right mindfulness and Right concentration.
As for the assumptions:
"And what is right view? Knowledge with reference to suffering, knowledge with reference to the origination of suffering, knowledge with reference to the cessation of suffering, knowledge with reference to the way of practice leading to the cessation of suffering: This is called right view."
Again, if the assumption fits into this defintion why deny, or doubt, its legitimacy?