Books and Teachers

General discussion, particularly exploring the Dharma in the modern world.
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Re: Books and Teachers

Postby Indrajala » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:16 am

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: Books and Teachers

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Re: Books and Teachers

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Re: Books and Teachers

Postby JKhedrup » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:21 am

Believe me I understand the frustrations that happen as one gets used to living with Tibetans. If you learn the language you will find though that what you assumed a behaviour meant in fact didn't mean that at all. You will also find that there are a wide variety of opinions on what "normal" and "crazy" are. The secular Tibetans think we Westerners are crazy for our blind guru devotion, super-conservative religious Tibetans think we are never respectful enough to our lamas. It is all relative.

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Re: Books and Teachers

Postby muni » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:28 pm

Books/texts are honestly studied, to prepare
This coarse me-delusion to be more flexible
To be as a simple empty open vessel
And recieve the highest medicine beyond worlds
Worlds as ones own mistaken consciousness

Selfknowing nature need no fabricated knowing
That is what a realized Master is pointing to
But ego keeps itself alive by devotion for intelligence
Not knowing this is the very delusion and suffering
Knowing and let go, letting go and go......

:meditate:

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Re: Books and Teachers

Postby smcj » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:20 am

Don't take me too seriously.

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Re: Books and Teachers

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Re: Books and Teachers

Postby Matt J » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:26 pm

In my mind, the dharma is not a one-size fits all type of thing. There are different methods that work well for some but not for others. For some, books are great. For others, teachers are great. For others (like me), both are great. For everyone, they each have limitations. But it all depends on context.

For me, it appears that books and teachers are useful for taking you to a point where you don't need books or teachers.
The Great Way is not difficult
If only there is no picking or choosing
--- Xin Xin Ming


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Re: Books and Teachers

Postby KonchokZoepa » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:16 pm

If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo

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Re: Books and Teachers

Postby KonchokZoepa » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:20 pm

If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo

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Re: Books and Teachers

Postby smcj » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:35 pm

Don't take me too seriously.

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Re: Books and Teachers

Postby disjointed » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:34 am

Believe it or not, books can be sufficient.

It's probably not a great idea to develop your understanding or practice in isolation because you won't have someone to tell you when you've developed a warped or unbalanced understanding.

For the same reason you should not rely solely on one teacher. It is very dangerous to have a single Buddhist teacher and develop your understanding and practice in isolation.

There are some bogus lamas going around telling people to only have 1 teacher, so it's worth stressing here.
If there is a radical inconsistency between your statements and the position you claim to hold,
you are a sock puppet.
Make as many accounts as you want; people can identify your deception with this test.

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Re: Books and Teachers

Postby smcj » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:09 am

Don't take me too seriously.

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Re: Books and Teachers

Postby JKhedrup » Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:24 am

However the motivation of teachers who loudly insist that their students should study with no one else (especially when they themselves have more than one teacher) should be questioned. It could be that there are control issues of very really concern. If it is really coming from the student's side that they only want one teacher that is another matter.

In terms of the Tibetan lamas I know I cannot think of a single one that restricts themselves to one teacher, though of course many have root gurus, or main sources of inspiration.


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