Death very good opportunity?

[tomschwarz]

Hello dear friends from beginningless time!

Is death a great opportunity for making progress on the path to enlightenment? Clearly death presents us with possibilities that do not exist in the bardo of living.... Or is life human life the best bardo for making progress on the path?

And related questions, which poses greater risks of reversing progress on the path?

[BuddhaFollower]

Of course, because with rainbow body you reach exhaustion of phenomena in the bardo of dharmata:

http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.ph ... =80#p92772

[Queequeg]

Seems to me if you don't take advantage of life, bardo is hardly an opportunity. Life is a very good opportunity. Death is a dependent opportunity. But what do I know. I'm wasting life. I'll probably waste death.

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[tomschwarz]

Of course, because with rainbow body you reach exhaustion

right dear Buddha follower. So next question for you is it
1 possible
2 possible but harder
3 not possible
To reach exhaustion of phenomena in the living years?

[BuddhaFollower]

Of course its possible to finish the 4 visions when still alive, but it's rarer.

[Norwegian]

According to Lama Akhyuk (who traversed the four visions and achieved rainbow body himself), it takes 60 years of dedicated Dzogchen retreat practice in order to get rainbow body [quoted in Tiso's new book]. That rules out the vast majority of Dzogchen practitioners. But like Malcolm said in another thread, there's different levels of capacities, so there's still the possibility of realization in the bardo for the rest of Dzogchen practitioners.

[BuddhaFollower]

According to Lama Akhyuk (who traversed the four visions and achieved rainbow body himself), it takes 60 years of dedicated Dzogchen retreat practice in order to get rainbow body [quoted in Tiso's new book]. That rules out the vast majority of Dzogchen practitioners. But like Malcolm said in another thread, there's different levels of capacities, so there's still the possibility of realization in the bardo for the rest of Dzogchen practitioners.

But there is a shortcut:

"I dreamed that the sun and the moon rose together, and that when I directed my gaze in meditation toward them, I experienced great progress in my experience of the visions of togal." - Jamgon Kongtrul

https://books.google.com/books?id=s6L2k ... al&f=false

"...in a dream the functioning of our mind and our consciousness of the senses are unhindered. We can have more clarity. Thus, there are more possibilities. For example, it is possible to practice advanced Dzogchen practices of thodgal and the Dzogchen Longde. If you practice these in the daytime, you can certainly have meditative experiences, but in a dream you can have experiences beyond the limitations of the material body. That is why the practice is very important. " - ChNN

https://books.google.com/books?id=7--9a ... dy&f=false