Constant compassionate kindness

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Constant compassionate kindness

Postby tomschwarz » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:38 pm

Hello brothers and sisters,

Now you may ask yourself is this Tom Schwarz person (whoever that really is) starting another thread about being nice? What an idiot - and he is not even nice him/herself!!!

But consider this, many of you have identified the risk of being phony-nice as though that was at least as big a problem as being brash. But on this forum are there no guidelines warning against being phony-nice, why? Can you find something in our Buddhist Dharma on the risks/downfalls associated with holding in your negative feelings and acting nice. The guidelines here are to avoid mean or brash speech. Is that not our greater problem? Or do you disagree?

"In your constant, compassionate kindness, nurture me as your disciple and may we never be apart I pray!

Show your loving face and bestow your joyful sublime instruction to us, your sincerely devoted lineage-holder heirs."

The Chariot of Devotion, the second dudjom rinpoche, jigdral yeshe dorje
i dedicate this post to your happiness, the causes of your happiness, the absence of your suffering the causes of the absence of your suffering that we may not have too much attachment nor aversion. SAMAYAMANUPALAYA

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Re: Constant compassionate kindness

Postby Ayu » Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:13 am

Not everybody can radiate gracious loving kindness all the time to the outside. I mean, even teachers, Lamas, gurus, have different "moods". And there is a need for different behavior at different times.
We have to adjust to those different times. At a time of concentration, a time of retreat or of showing seriousness there is no time for to smile.

The main point is, we have to concentrate on our own behavior only, and we should know we can't judge the amount of compassion somebody else has. Looking from the outside we cannot really judge. Hence it is more secure to simply detect ones own perceptions, acknowledge them.
Let other people be wrathful, unfriendly, excited - they are only dealing with themselves. It's not about you, and they will learn their lesson, as soon as they are ready.
I have decided to stick with love.
Hate is too great a burden to bear.
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Re: Constant compassionate kindness

Postby muni » Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:46 am

That invites to look inside and see own made mistakes. Since these are all home-made. When my deluded focus is on how people here are deluded, how another is not compassionate, then do not expect compassion other than my theatre performance. An enlightened master sees the dirty laundry or the fake nature and helps to clean, that is not the same as me projecting my delusions.
But actually we suffer without compassion, without genuine nice-ness ( I have no word for that). There is no inner peace. Because there is at least a subtle attachment-aversion as basis and so no clear mind-heart at all.

Yesterday a master told a story. It was about a student who was bowing down for his master, asking for his blessings. The master responded by bowing even deeper down and he asked humbly for the student his devotion. By devotion blessings can be.
That devotion for the master, if we lose that, then for me there is no master at all. I repeat it is so for me. And in that devotion all fake-ness melts, is gone and at the same time compassion is.
In my deluded moments, I am running crazy and no devotion nor compassion is, only a lot of craziness. So forget being nice or compassionate!

When the mud sinks and some calm clarity can arise then a small prayer; may I never be separate of you my beloved Master la.

But then waaahaaa, there is said, keep your devotion for you! Okay, but, I wanted to say that because in genuine devotion compassion is as well. It is actually the same light.

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Re: Constant compassionate kindness

Postby Wayfarer » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:04 am

'We have to find within the heart where the tap is to loving kindness. Unless that tap is turned on, the well will be dry.'
In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities; in the expert's mind there are few ~ Suzuki-roshi

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Re: Constant compassionate kindness

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We who are like children shrink from pain but love its causes. - Shantideva

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Re: Constant compassionate kindness

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Re: Constant compassionate kindness

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Re: Constant compassionate kindness

Postby tomschwarz » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:15 pm

i dedicate this post to your happiness, the causes of your happiness, the absence of your suffering the causes of the absence of your suffering that we may not have too much attachment nor aversion. SAMAYAMANUPALAYA

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Re: Constant compassionate kindness

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Re: Constant compassionate kindness

Postby White Lotus » Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:00 pm

Does the wise man know his own compassion? I feel there is one here. I feel his/her compassion and it is beautiful. :namaste:
in any matters of importance. dont rely on me. i may not know what i am talking about. take what i say as mere speculation. i am not ordained. nor do i have a formal training. i do believe though that if i am wrong on any point. there are those on this site who i hope will quickly point out my mistakes.

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Re: Constant compassionate kindness

Postby muni » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:21 am

When leaving discussions, debates some moments for what they are, it becomes clear that without Bodhichitta there is no Dharma at all. I have been studying, reciting mantras, done kora, pilgrimages, retreats..., but even given by Enlightened Emanations, what sense it makes without connection on that moment, without Bodhichitta? What sense it makes when I say: come on, let me out of my prison, I want to be enlightened! It doesn’t work at all, it is another delusion, a new form of suffering. With such intention it is not Dharma. Please, correct me where I am wrong.

Constant compassionate kindness as the title says here is by Bodhichitta, right? If so, it is not just a kindness. By Bodhichitta there is liberation, since without there is no Wisdom, there is no Wisdom by knowledge alone. Insightful knowledge is necessary but is alone not liberating. As how then can there be everlasting peace, impartial kindness, impartial love and so primordial goodness what means Buddhahood?

Perhaps knowledge is like a needful match, but without that thing on the box to scratch along, there will be no flame, in same way without Bodhichitta, there is no Buddhahood. I can possess many matches but Wisdom is not a possession.
What is called conventional Bodhichitta, seems to support the intention why we study, practise, it then is getting a chance to flow into Bodhichitta/Wisdom. Bodhichitta/Wisdom is what I feel from where, or perhaps better said, as what 'Masters' are talking.

Lucky there are enlightened emanations, benefitting all of us, as selfless impartially blessing- teachings, there is nothing to find on what we call earth, as beauty as that. Emaho!

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Re: Constant compassionate kindness

Postby tomschwarz » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:54 am

Wonderful muni )))) And exactly what his holiness the tender hearted wisdom master from Tibet and dalai lama has been teaching the last few days in Delhi. In short the core of the path and the most significant progress on the path depend on boddhiccita and wisdom.

Here is day 2 of three (shantideva guide)

[video] https://youtu.be/bozR9uqwmHg [/video]

I think we must deepen our practice of Buddhism. Not the flash in the pan over the last 2000 years that we call "Buddhism " but the truth of all things. This is what his holiness is doing by directly bridging all truth seeking practices with "buddist" practice (science, other religions, secular ethics, etc...). I am certain that the path to truth begins for us exactly as his holiness lays out, and you yourself explain. with caring loving kindness and overcoming a fixation on self (centered perspective)
i dedicate this post to your happiness, the causes of your happiness, the absence of your suffering the causes of the absence of your suffering that we may not have too much attachment nor aversion. SAMAYAMANUPALAYA

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