Jetsun Taranatha

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Jetsun Taranatha

Postby Palzang Jangchub » Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:02 pm

Recently read that not only was Taranatha one of the closest disciples of the 9th Karmapa, Wangchuk Dorje, but that he also wrote about the histories of several tantras. I know some of what he penned about the Tara tantras wound up in Martin Willson's In Praise of Tara: Songs to the Saviouress, but does anyone know where his history of the Yamantaka tantras can be found?

For that matter, does anyone know what lineage(s) of Yamantaka were held by Jetsun Taranatha, and which are in Jonang? He practiced Kamtsang, Shangpa, and Jonang, so I'm all ears.

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Re: Jetsun Taranatha

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Re: Jetsun Taranatha

Postby conebeckham » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:59 pm

Taranatha was actually a Lam Dre/Sakyapa practitioner as well...in fact, the Jonang sprung to a great degree from the Sakyas, at least in terms of Tantric lineages. Also a holder of various Yamantaka lineages....his family lineage is actually directly from Ra Lotsawa Dorje Drak. In fact, he was the holder of a huge number of transmissions, chiefly from his main guru, Buddhaguptanatha, who came to Tibet from India.


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Re: Jetsun Taranatha

Postby conebeckham » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:17 pm

Something else tangential....it's said that the "spells" Milarepa used, prior to his "reformation," to rain down death and destuction on his village, related to Yamantaka, as well.


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
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Re: Jetsun Taranatha

Postby smcj » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:26 pm

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Postby Palzang Jangchub » Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:20 pm

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Re: Jetsun Taranatha

Postby untxi » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:37 pm

As I know the story, Marpa's son was mocking Bhairava as a yidam because it has an animal's head. In truth Bhairava has the buffalo head as a trophy from conquering Yama... but anyway... Marpa's son is mouthing off about Bhairava-Yamantaka line this, and Ra, realizing this is creating negative associations for others, liberates him. Marpa's son is an adept so he transfers.consciousness to another body.

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Re: Jetsun Taranatha

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Human life spent in
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Re: Jetsun Taranatha

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Re: Jetsun Taranatha

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འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
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— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Jetsun Taranatha

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This has got to be in the top 10 list for quickest and furthest off-topic a thread has gone.
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Re: Jetsun Taranatha

Postby Palzang Jangchub » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:04 am

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"The Sutras, Tantras, and Philosophical Scriptures are great in number. However life is short, and intelligence is limited, so it's hard to cover them completely. You may know a lot, but if you don't put it into practice, it's like dying of thirst on the shore of a great lake. Likewise, a common corpse is found in the bed of a great scholar." ~ Karma Chagme


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Re: Jetsun Taranatha

Postby johninman » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:01 pm

One can easily see why Dharma masters outside of tantric traditions disparage the Tantra and its followers.His Holiness,the Dalai Lama has made comments about the misuse of 'lower activities'[buddhist against buddhist]in Tibet to be one of the karmic reasons for the recent and terrible history there.

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Re: Jetsun Taranatha

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