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Ojas, Shukra & Tummo

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If shukra is a waste product, and ojas is generally not lost in the discharge of shukra - then what is the rationale behind not ejaculating when practicing tummo?
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Good question.

It looks like you've been following the discussion in the "End of the Kali Yuga" thread in the Lounge, that started with this post:

http://dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f= ... =40#p71513" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It would worth reitering some of the points made there when going further into this topic.
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dakini_boi wrote:If shukra is a waste product, and ojas is generally not lost in the discharge of shukra - then what is the rationale behind not ejaculating when practicing tummo?

It acts as a basis for the bliss of tummy.

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Oh, I thought it was the ojas that was important. Do shukra and ojas have different roles in tummo, or do they act together as the basis for bliss?

Also, what is the relationship between bindu and ojas?
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dakini_boi wrote:Oh, I thought it was the ojas that was important. Do shukra and ojas have different roles in tummo, or do they act together as the basis for bliss?

Also, what is the relationship between bindu and ojas?

In tummo, what is important is bliss.

There are different kinds of bindu. The most basic bindu is the bindu of pranavayu in the heart. The so called "bodhicitta" that circulates in the body is actually ojas.

Sukra acts as the basis for bliss.
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Namdrol wrote:
dakini_boi wrote:Oh, I thought it was the ojas that was important. Do shukra and ojas have different roles in tummo, or do they act together as the basis for bliss?

Also, what is the relationship between bindu and ojas?

In tummo, what is important is bliss.

There are different kinds of bindu. The most basic bindu is the bindu of pranavayu in the heart. The so called "bodhicitta" that circulates in the body is actually ojas.

Sukra acts as the basis for bliss.
Does it also act as the basis for the bliss that arises in the jhanas?
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Inge wrote:
Namdrol wrote:
dakini_boi wrote:Oh, I thought it was the ojas that was important. Do shukra and ojas have different roles in tummo, or do they act together as the basis for bliss?

Also, what is the relationship between bindu and ojas?

In tummo, what is important is bliss.

There are different kinds of bindu. The most basic bindu is the bindu of pranavayu in the heart. The so called "bodhicitta" that circulates in the body is actually ojas.

Sukra acts as the basis for bliss.
Does it also act as the basis for the bliss that arises in the jhanas?
No.
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Namdrol wrote:
dakini_boi wrote:Oh, I thought it was the ojas that was important. Do shukra and ojas have different roles in tummo, or do they act together as the basis for bliss?

Also, what is the relationship between bindu and ojas?

In tummo, what is important is bliss.

There are different kinds of bindu. The most basic bindu is the bindu of pranavayu in the heart. The so called "bodhicitta" that circulates in the body is actually ojas.

Sukra acts as the basis for bliss.
is there a connection between sukra and being joyful or depressed for normal people (not a yogis)? thank you
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rai wrote:
Namdrol wrote:
dakini_boi wrote:Oh, I thought it was the ojas that was important. Do shukra and ojas have different roles in tummo, or do they act together as the basis for bliss?

Also, what is the relationship between bindu and ojas?

In tummo, what is important is bliss.

There are different kinds of bindu. The most basic bindu is the bindu of pranavayu in the heart. The so called "bodhicitta" that circulates in the body is actually ojas.

Sukra acts as the basis for bliss.
is there a connection between sukra and being joyful or depressed for normal people (not a yogis)? thank you
Only if they are are losing ojas. The main thing that depletes ojas however, is mental worry and stress.

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Does shukra get converted to ojas?

If so, why is shukra considered a waste product?
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http://dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f= ... 613#p73613" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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