Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
You know Earth Dragon the normal way in Vajrayana to approach a deity like Vajrakilaya is like this;
1. Request the empowerment, the oral transmission and explanation of the practice from your heart while presenting an offering. Repeat many times if necessary until your Guru accepts your request. Please understand that it is a major commitment on your side, you have to do many years of practice every day. It is also a big responsibility for the Guru. So don't do this if you are not very serious and dedicated.
2. Receive the empowerment, the oral transmission and explanation of the practice. This can take quite some time if there are texts that need translation and so on.
3. Do the practice and study the commentary or commentaries. Ask your Guru questions when possible to resolve doubts. Learn how to perform the various rituals as well as you can.
Eventually, if you practice very well for many years, the full meaning of Vajrkilaya and many of its rituals and teachings will arise in your own mind. At that point you can check with your Guru if your understanding and realization is correct.
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1. Request the empowerment, the oral transmission and explanation of the practice from your heart while presenting an offering. Repeat many times if necessary until your Guru accepts your request. Please understand that it is a major commitment on your side, you have to do many years of practice every day. It is also a big responsibility for the Guru. So don't do this if you are not very serious and dedicated.
2. Receive the empowerment, the oral transmission and explanation of the practice. This can take quite some time if there are texts that need translation and so on.
3. Do the practice and study the commentary or commentaries. Ask your Guru questions when possible to resolve doubts. Learn how to perform the various rituals as well as you can.
Eventually, if you practice very well for many years, the full meaning of Vajrkilaya and many of its rituals and teachings will arise in your own mind. At that point you can check with your Guru if your understanding and realization is correct.
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"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
heart wrote:You know Earth Dragon the normal way in Vajrayana to approach a deity like Vajrakilaya is like this;
1. Request the empowerment, the oral transmission and explanation of the practice from your heart while presenting an offering. Repeat many times if necessary until your Guru accepts your request. Please understand that it is a major commitment on your side, you have to do many years of practice every day. It is also a big responsibility for the Guru. So don't do this if you are not very serious and dedicated.
2. Receive the empowerment, the oral transmission and explanation of the practice. This can take quite some time if there are texts that need translation and so on.
3. Do the practice and study the commentary or commentaries. Ask your Guru questions when possible to resolve doubts. Learn how to perform the various rituals as well as you can.
Eventually, if you practice very well for many years, the full meaning of Vajrkilaya and many of its rituals and teachings will arise in your own mind. At that point you can check with your Guru if your understanding and realization is correct.
Thank you for your simple but effective advice
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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
Venerable Sangha,
I have received the initiation or empowerment of Longchen Nyinthing Vajrakilaya From $th Dodrupchen Rinpoche,I do have the text and all other things but I have not much explanation in english,if anyone has the complete explanation of the mandala generation of the main and another deities and possibly a photo ,I would be greatly helped and feel grateful
thanking you
Regards,
Karma Naheb
I have received the initiation or empowerment of Longchen Nyinthing Vajrakilaya From $th Dodrupchen Rinpoche,I do have the text and all other things but I have not much explanation in english,if anyone has the complete explanation of the mandala generation of the main and another deities and possibly a photo ,I would be greatly helped and feel grateful
thanking you
Regards,
Karma Naheb
Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
Normally one receives the "tri" or instructions on the practice from a qualified lama, then one can use the explanations as a support. But you need to receive the tri directly. Most lamas in the Longchen Nyingthig tradition will give you this if you are sincere, especially if you have received the empowerment from the likes of Dodrupchen Rinpoche.karma naheb wrote:Venerable Sangha,
I have received the initiation or empowerment of Longchen Nyinthing Vajrakilaya From $th Dodrupchen Rinpoche,I do have the text and all other things but I have not much explanation in english,if anyone has the complete explanation of the mandala generation of the main and another deities and possibly a photo ,I would be greatly helped and feel grateful
thanking you
Regards,
Karma Naheb
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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
the most extensive practical instructions in english on phurba is from lama tharchin, on the friends of lama tharchin website .
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Isn't it sometimes really a bit like that?mahabuddha wrote:"Hey teacher tell me all the secret information." No, it's probably better you find it on the internet
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But at $495 I think the DVDs are remarkably expensive. So much so that it would surely price all but the richest out of the market.lama tsewang wrote:the most extensive practical instructions in english on phurba is from lama tharchin, on the friends of lama tharchin website .
You can get 9 and a half hours of teaching from HH Getse Rinpoche on the same practice for $15 on vimalatreasures.org
Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
Garchen-la's teachings from the last Drubchen are available on CD, i think its like 16$.
http://www.garchen.net/GBI-Shop/index.p ... ajrakilaya
http://www.garchen.net/GBI-Shop/index.p ... ajrakilaya
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Tashi de lek ! If he is an advanced Guru, he manifests himself as the Yidam.
Up to you to clarify your view till you can see...
100000 Preliminary Practices are a useful beginning.
Up to you to clarify your view till you can see...
100000 Preliminary Practices are a useful beginning.
Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
Karma Lodrö wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:35 am Tashi de lek ! If he is an advanced Guru, he manifests himself as the Yidam.
Up to you to clarify your view till you can see...
100000 Preliminary Practices are a useful beginning.
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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
This practice doesn't come for free. It took 70 monks to carry the offering for my own lama Rinpoche's empowerment...
Try to go to your Guru with an ounce of gold. Very appreciated generally.
Try to go to your Guru with an ounce of gold. Very appreciated generally.
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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
Yeti wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:40 amComplete transmissions are usually given during 3 years retreat... Intense purification and practice are mandatory.karma naheb wrote:Venerable Sangha,
I have received the initiation or empowerment of Longchen Nyinthing Vajrakilaya From $th Dodrupchen Rinpoche,I do have the text and all other things but I have not much explanation in english,if anyone has the complete explanation of the mandala generation of the main and another deities and possibly a photo ,I would be greatly helped and feel grateful
thanking you
Regards,
Karma Naheb
Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
100000 is nothing. You should do 100000000000.
Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
That is too many zeros to count on a computer screen! You should try using comma between each 000.
1 million 2 hundred thousand is a normally the starter for a Yidam practice.
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Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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Really? We are really discussing the merit of a commentary based on it's cost??? Really???byampsa wrote:Garchen-la's teachings from the last Drubchen are available on CD, i think its like 16$.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
Merit based on cost? michaelb did not mention it, so it looks like you introduced that criterion all by yourself.
Obviosuly, cost is no indicator of the relative value of the commentaries, but I'm not alone in knowing of Lamas who look at their students and see £ $ .
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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
If it's this series of teachings, the price has gone down a lot: ($110)
https://www.heartteachings.com/collecti ... 22-mp4-mp3
https://www.heartteachings.com/collecti ... 22-mp4-mp3
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Re: Dorje Phurba/ Vajrakilaya
As far as pictures, you can get a good reproduction of a thangka with the Kilaya deities at mahasiddha.org bookstore.