Can it be possible to keep a permanent stream of consciousness even while sleeping?
For example, to a buddhist monk doing Vipassana, the best thing would be to get mindfull ALL the day. Can be that possible?
It is said that Buddha didnt really sleep, for instance.
Keep permanent stream of consciousness
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Re: Keep permanent stream of consciousness
In Tantric Buddhism, such as Dzogchen, it is held that through meditation practice one gets to a stage where one can remain awake & aware in one's mental body while the physical body is asleep. This allows for continuing practice and experience in other dimensions during the night. A similar practice and result is recounted in various Western esoteric traditions, such as Anthroposophy. Lucid dreaming would be just a beginning glimpse of the possibilities here.
Thoroughly tame your own mind.
This is (possibly) the teaching of Buddha.
"I must finally conclude that this proposition, I am, I exist, is necessarily true whenever it is put forward by me or conceived in my mind."
- Descartes, 2nd Meditation 25
This is (possibly) the teaching of Buddha.
"I must finally conclude that this proposition, I am, I exist, is necessarily true whenever it is put forward by me or conceived in my mind."
- Descartes, 2nd Meditation 25
Re: Keep permanent stream of consciousness
Doesn't necessarily need speacial dream yogas or the like, though these can perhaps also be useful. If you mindfulness is sufficiently stable when you go to sleep, it will keep going into sleep.Nosta wrote:Can it be possible to keep a permanent stream of consciousness even while sleeping?
For example, to a buddhist monk doing Vipassana, the best thing would be to get mindfull ALL the day. Can be that possible?
It is said that Buddha didnt really sleep, for instance.
"Even if my body should be burnt to death in the fires of hell
I would endure it for myriad lifetimes
As your companion in practice"
--- Gandavyuha Sutra
I would endure it for myriad lifetimes
As your companion in practice"
--- Gandavyuha Sutra
Re: Keep permanent stream of consciousness
It is possible to remain aware while being asleep. This tends to happen during meditation retreats where you're engaged in full-time meditation. Though when you go back to ordinary life it wears off.Nosta wrote:Can it be possible to keep a permanent stream of consciousness even while sleeping?
For example, to a buddhist monk doing Vipassana, the best thing would be to get mindfull ALL the day. Can be that possible?
It is said that Buddha didnt really sleep, for instance.
Re: Keep permanent stream of consciousness
Falling asleep, waking up, may be good ways to taste (again) how rebirth and death.
Re: Keep permanent stream of consciousness
Exactly. But as the other mentioned one can keep mindfulness throughout the day and during sleep. Of course this is not the same as something permanent.Nosta wrote:Falling asleep, waking up, may be good ways to taste (again) how rebirth and death.
Kirt
“Where do atomic bombs come from?”
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
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Re: Keep permanent stream of consciousness
In Dzogchen, and I can speak according to my understanding of hows ChNN teaches it, this can be solved when after the recognition of instant presence (not mere awareness) one gradually trains to integrate every action into practice, meaning one never abandons that state not mattering what one is doing. This aspect of the practice is one of the things that was most compelling in my decision to learn Dzogchen, exactly because the effects of intensive practice done while in retreat tend to wear off when one re engages in everyday activities. I think this point is very important for those who can't spend some years practicing in retreat conditions.Huseng wrote:It is possible to remain aware while being asleep. This tends to happen during meditation retreats where you're engaged in full-time meditation. Though when you go back to ordinary life it wears off.Nosta wrote:Can it be possible to keep a permanent stream of consciousness even while sleeping?
For example, to a buddhist monk doing Vipassana, the best thing would be to get mindfull ALL the day. Can be that possible?
It is said that Buddha didnt really sleep, for instance.
Re: Keep permanent stream of consciousness
Thanks!
I think i will learn more about Dzogchen.
I think i will learn more about Dzogchen.
Re: Keep permanent stream of consciousness
If you choose to learn more, definitely read "The Crystal and the Way of Light" by Chogyal Namkhai NorbuNosta wrote:Thanks!
I think i will learn more about Dzogchen.
- How foolish you are,
grasping the letter of the text and ignoring its intention!
- Vasubandhu
Re: Keep permanent stream of consciousness
Thanks for that advice
I will try to find that book.
I will try to find that book.