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by dzogchungpa
Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:57 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

Boris wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:44 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:24 pm
There are plenty of Buddhists who think Krishnamurti is a fine fellow and that his teachings are wonderful, some of them are quite famous as well. Are they wrong?
If this report is correct, maybe it has some value.


You're citing CTR? Wasn't that guy an alcoholic and womanizer?
by dzogchungpa
Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:48 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

PuerAzaelis wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:22 am
dzogchungpa wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:07 am
With regards to Jax, I speculate there is something deeper at stake, a reverse racism.
Lol oh quit it.

No. :smile:
by dzogchungpa
Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:07 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

I've been reading this thread wondering when he would come up. I'm curious if he now gets the same benefit of the doubt as the Aro folks? Just because I cast complete and total doubt on this fantasy that there is some kind of authority which tells us which groups and teachers are good and which are...
by dzogchungpa
Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:01 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

Got it. Will PM you on this, to avoiding feeding that particular troll any further. Dude, you're not fooling anyone. We know you don't have the balls to debate him. :wink: I don't want a debate, and I don't want to talk about Another Man's Sac. Um, I was referring to Simone, not you. Bit of an insi...
by dzogchungpa
Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:13 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

Some of Jax's stuff I see on FB from time to time seems pretty well spoken to me. I've been reading this thread wondering when he would come up. I'm curious if he now gets the same benefit of the doubt as the Aro folks? You know, that is a good question. As somebody or other once said : When we har...
by dzogchungpa
Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:30 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

For the avoidance of doubt, what question would the explanation be explaining? Simon's response was a bit of a non sequitur to my original post Here's what Simon claimed. I don't think that ANY terma from ANY source is genuine by any 'reasonably objective standard'. Which does not mean that I belie...
by dzogchungpa
Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:45 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

Some of Jax's stuff I see on FB from time to time seems pretty well spoken to me.
by dzogchungpa
Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:26 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

It is pretty simple -- there isn't the slightest bit of empirical evidence that from Mahāyāna onward any of these texts, sūtra and tantras, long oral lineage or short treasure lineage, were indeed spoken by the Buddha and so on. Based upon this, I really think the standard of accepting and rejectin...
by dzogchungpa
Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:56 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

A friend following this discussion, who does not have an account, sent me some interesting remarks by Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche: "Most people who consider themselves Buddhists do not tend to study what the Buddha himself taught, but instead just imitate one another. I don't know why it is but people ju...
by dzogchungpa
Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:14 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

I speculate there is something deeper at stake, a reverse racism. Wait, so racism by whites moves forward and racism by other groups moves in reverse? I am so confused. Ok fine, both words were the wrong words to use. It's an interesting question, actually, how to describe this putative phenomenon....
by dzogchungpa
Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:06 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

Okey doke. Whatever.. ;) I believe the last Aro thread here also ended with people getting collectively tired of your commentorial style. If you want to engage in discussion, please do so. If you just want to take shots at people (and always in favour of one side of the debate, but under pretence i...
by dzogchungpa
Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:30 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

Dudes, I just totally had a pure vision of Mami Wata! :woohoo: For a moment I thought we were going to re-litigate this masterpiece https://dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=23725&sid=b8ca2510fba0101eadeebc82624ad924 :reading: That really was a great thread, now that I look at it again.
by dzogchungpa
Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:54 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

PeterC wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:27 am
dzogchungpa wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:17 am

Dude, you are, like, totally planting the seeds for fundamentalism in your own mind.
But isn’t fundamentalism totally valid, too?

Touché.
by dzogchungpa
Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:17 am
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

I’m struggling a bit with the extreme relativist position here. Not because of its logical consistency or inconsistency - more because of its practical implications. If you take it purely at face value then you would conclude that, say, Kim Katami might be on the 8th bhumi, Dominic Geshe Rinpoche m...
by dzogchungpa
Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:07 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

Dudes, I just totally had a pure vision of Mami Wata!

:woohoo:
by dzogchungpa
Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:15 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

I dig. Maybe I'll give that Pema Khandro Rinpoche another chance! Feel free. At least she has taken the pains to acquire a solid academic foundation in Buddhist Studies —— that is always encouraging. When we harbor suspicions about all these fruiting bodies sprouting from invisible rhizomes in the ...
by dzogchungpa
Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:47 pm
Forum: Nyingma
Topic: The Aro Authenticity Debate.
Replies: 302
Views: 5957

Re: The Aro Authenticity Debate.

And let's just run a quick rational review of the situation: Aro gTer have no lineage. No amount of "To quoque" logical fallacies can deny this. The terma has not be ratified/certified/recognised by anybody other than it's writer and thus it's legitimacy is questionable. It is not like there is a t...
by dzogchungpa
Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:06 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Murder Most Foul.
Replies: 19
Views: 377

Re: Murder Most Foul.

Jeff H wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:24 pm
I'd like to see this one added: Image which I think I copied from one of dzogchunpa's posts a couple of years ago.

Posts like this make all my hard work here worthwhile.
by dzogchungpa
Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:23 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: New Rigpa letter
Replies: 110
Views: 3471

Re: New Rigpa letter

I find that as I get older, I tend to prefer apophatic practice; but certainly when I was younger in the Dharma, I was very enthusiastic about cataphatic practices (Greg, this is your cue to lecture me about misusing Greek words). I do like practicing Chö liturgies though. Well, Chö is a very phati...
by dzogchungpa
Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Murder Most Foul.
Replies: 19
Views: 377

Re: Murder Most Foul.

I would get rid of this one: :thinking:

because it should look like this: Image