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by dzogchungpa
Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:29 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 68
Views: 2715

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

Didn't HH Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche teach Shentong? DS Apparently. In a footnote to "The Buddha From Dolpo" Stearns relates the following story: In the late 1970s I once asked Dezhung Rinpoché for his opinion about the shentong teachings upheld at that time in the different Tibetan traditions. Rinpoc...
by dzogchungpa
Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:37 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR
Replies: 53
Views: 3235

Re: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR

I don't actually know much about Akong R but it seems that Leslie Hays is considered to be a reliable source of information these days, so I thought it was worth discussing. She seems reliable with respect to her first hand accounts of what she personally saw, as to what she heard second hand...no ...
by dzogchungpa
Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:06 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR
Replies: 53
Views: 3235

Re: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR

Wait, so what is your view on all of this? What was your point in making this thread? (Im not implying anything, just would like to actually know) Because, I cant tell if i am receiving mixed signals or not. If by "all of this" you mean Hays' statement re Akong R my view is that I don't know what a...
by dzogchungpa
Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:51 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR
Replies: 53
Views: 3235

Re: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR

The point is, the ability to propgate bullshit is also much greater now so one has to be even more critical than before. Mind you, it's entirely possible that Hays is telling the complete truth and that Akong Rinpoche did in fact kidnap and torture a little boy. I don't know. Do you? Wait, so what ...
by dzogchungpa
Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:25 am
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR
Replies: 53
Views: 3235

Re: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR

In any case, we are seeing more and more people emboldened to come forward with unwelcome information despite the best efforts of many to silence them, so hopefully there will be greater opportunity for examination. Information suppression isn’t what it used to be, as we are seeing. The point is, t...
by dzogchungpa
Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:49 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR
Replies: 53
Views: 3235

Re: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR

Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR, Leslie Hays says CTR tortured a cat. Is there anyone here that actually know Leslie Hays and that can vouch for her stories? /magnus Magnus, are you suggesting that we should not just take everything that Hays says at face value but that we shoul...
by dzogchungpa
Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:15 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR
Replies: 53
Views: 3235

Re: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR

I was baffled by this discrepancy in Supreme Surmang Abbot claims. Surely lamas don't make up shit like that! I was still pretty naive then. There's an amusing story in Diana's book about the Karmapa's first visit to Boulder: Rinpoche (CTR) also asked me to take a drive around Boulder with His Holi...
by dzogchungpa
Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:12 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR
Replies: 53
Views: 3235

Re: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR

gb9810 wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:02 pm
joking of course, but let's be sensible ...

Yes, let's. :smile:



:focus:
by dzogchungpa
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:16 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR
Replies: 53
Views: 3235

Re: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR

That kind of sounds like victim blaming to me. I do not think so. I am not saying it is her own fault. I am more stating that I doubt that what she describes was a real abuse or even real. Well, you're basically saying she's delusional or lying so that's kind of like blaming her, isn't it? The poin...
by dzogchungpa
Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:25 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR
Replies: 53
Views: 3235

Re: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR

I honestly finda that hard to believe. This is bit too much. But still shows how f-ing messy the whole situation is. Kinda reminded me of a passage where Dianna says Akong R. bullied her and CTR when they still were in Samye-ling. But still really? This is a horrible mess. I knew Akong Rinpoche for...
by dzogchungpa
Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:14 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR
Replies: 53
Views: 3235

Leslie Hays says Akong R kidnapped and tortured SMR

I decided to look through the comment thread on Hays' cat story FB post, and there are many interesting comments but this one especially caught my eye: Then Sakyong Mipham rinpoche (smr or the Sawang as he was known then) was kidnapped by Akong Tulku, and he was tortured- locked in a closet & he sho...
by dzogchungpa
Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:10 am
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State
Replies: 68
Views: 2715

Re: Immutable Nature of the Primordial State

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:57 am
There is no primordial state.

There is, however, a book called "The Marvelous Primordial State" that the OP might find worth looking at.
by dzogchungpa
Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:58 pm
Forum: Dharma Events
Topic: Dudjom Yangsi meditation intstructions livestream
Replies: 7
Views: 514

Re: Dudjom Yangsi meditation intstructions livestream

Was that Dzigar Kongtrul on the right in the orange shawl?
by dzogchungpa
Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:16 pm
Forum: Dharma Events
Topic: Dudjom Yangsi meditation intstructions livestream
Replies: 7
Views: 514

Re: Dudjom Yangsi meditation intstructions livestream

Miroku wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:13 pm
Wow, thanks!

My pleasure. :smile:
by dzogchungpa
Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:49 pm
Forum: Dharma Events
Topic: Dudjom Yangsi meditation intstructions livestream
Replies: 7
Views: 514

Dudjom Yangsi meditation intstructions livestream

Apparently they are not sure when it will start:

by dzogchungpa
Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:18 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham
Replies: 373
Views: 18058

Re: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham

Does the autobiography say whether he ever branded any of his male students? Would this make his actions any less cruel and abusive to this woman? Or are you merely trying to show that cruel and abusive behavior was a norm for Tibetans and therefore, we should not be concerned about Osel Mukpo's se...
by dzogchungpa
Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:48 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham
Replies: 373
Views: 18058

Re: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham

ratna wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:49 pm
dzogchungpa wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:05 pm

BTW, what was the name of the master who branded Shuksep Lochen Chönyi Zangmo?
Pema Gyatso.

Does the autobiography say whether he ever branded ever any of his male students?
by dzogchungpa
Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: How to End Samaya?
Replies: 44
Views: 1746

Re: How to End Samaya?

Incidentally the late Akong Rinpoche said that CTR was in many ways a pioneer and an extraordinary teacher but that he had breached samaya long before he reached the West so that in effect he was not a guru and had no students in the traditional sense. That's interesting. Did he specify in what way...
by dzogchungpa
Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:05 pm
Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
Topic: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham
Replies: 373
Views: 18058

Re: Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo & Lama Tsultrim Allione: Shambhala's Sakyong Mipham

Well, at least SMR doesn't seem to have branded anyone. Yes, that makes his growing record of sexual assaults so much more palatable. Then of course, there are the invisible brands of bearing the scars of being victims of sexual assault and child abuse by powerful males in an organization that is m...

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