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by clyde
Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:56 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: teaching on training
Replies: 2
Views: 153

Re: teaching on training

Yes! Thank you.
by clyde
Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:11 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: teaching on training
Replies: 2
Views: 153

teaching on training

I have a vague memory of a particular teaching, but I don’t remember where I read it. And since I read a variety of suttas, sutras, and texts from various Buddhist traditions, I’m having difficulty locating it. I tried googling, but without success. So, perhaps someone here can help and point me to ...
by clyde
Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:07 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: doctrinal unity
Replies: 18
Views: 802

Re: doctrinal unity

I have no idea what the issue is here. I quoted Astus who said, “there isn’t much doctrinal unity” among the Zen communities. I disagreed, While there are differences in doctrinal emphasis (and practices) between the lineages, I think there is a fair degree of doctrinal unity. Astus, in replying to ...
by clyde
Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:38 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: doctrinal unity
Replies: 18
Views: 802

Re: doctrinal unity

Really? “A special transmission outside the scriptures;” = “sudden enlightenment” (admittedly this is a bit of a stretch ;) ) “No dependence on words and letters;” = “the absence of grasping at concepts” “Direct pointing to the mind of man;” = “directly perceive the nature of mind” “Seeing into one'...
by clyde
Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:56 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 1059

Re: proclaiming awakening

Though my knowledge of the Pali canon is extremely limited, I am sure Shakyamuni didn't go around shouting to anyone listening that he is awakened. He gave teachings after being requested to do so repeatedly. It is unreasonable to expect teachers to show up at public talks and claim they are enlugh...
by clyde
Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:19 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 1059

Re: proclaiming awakening

The Buddha was expressly open, not closed, with his teachings and didn’t seem concerned about speaking because “it only deepens the divide between teacher and student, strengthens unrealistic expectations, and generates an unhealthy personality cult.” We read this of the Buddha and other Buddhist te...
by clyde
Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:53 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 1059

Re: proclaiming awakening

I have heard a few Vipassana teachers publicly speak (and write) about their jhana experiences, but except for those teachers, I’ve not heard of other Buddhist teachers speaking of their meditation experiences or realizations. If you have heard of a Buddhist teacher publicly speaking of their medita...
by clyde
Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:47 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: doctrinal unity
Replies: 18
Views: 802

Re: doctrinal unity

What are those unique teachings and practices? It seems you’ve answered your question regarding teachings: “sudden enlightenment”, “directly perceive the nature of mind”, and “the nature of mind is identical to the nature of buddhahood”; and regarding practice: “the absence of grasping at concepts”...
by clyde
Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:36 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 1059

Re: proclaiming awakening

Simon E. wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:01 pm
There is no pan-Buddhism.
Therefore there is no single Buddhist culture and no single view . . .
And that’s wonderful. But I have yet to hear an answer to why Buddhist teachers don’t share with their students what they have experienced and realized within their tradition.
by clyde
Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:34 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 1059

Re: proclaiming awakening

The Buddha’s affirmation wasn’t merely claiming that the path was true It's not the Buddha's claim, it is the tradition's claim, the disciples' validation of themselves by asserting the trustworthiness of their teacher. Yes, but that misses my point that “he claimed he was awakened” and made the sa...
by clyde
Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:39 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 1059

Re: proclaiming awakening

I’m a bit uncomfortable with the whole idea of ‘attainment’. Actually I borrowed a book from the library once, and although I don’t remember much about it, it had an aphorism in the flyleaf in some strange language, the translation of which was given as ‘the unattainable is attained by non-attainme...
by clyde
Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:19 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: doctrinal unity
Replies: 18
Views: 802

Re: doctrinal unity

Astus; I get that the Zen tradition has no single institutional authority, but there are practices and teachings that differentiate Zen from other Buddhist (and non-Buddhist) traditions and define the Zen tradition, yes?
by clyde
Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:24 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 1059

Re: proclaiming awakening

The Buddha proclaimed The regular affirmation of the Buddha's enlightenment all over the sutras is not really about what he claimed but about affirming Buddhism as true. That is why you can find that statements about the Buddha come to be grander and grander as you go from the Nikayas towards the T...
by clyde
Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:22 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 1059

Re: proclaiming awakening

Thinking about this last night, I remembered a fragment of the Diamond Sutra which was easy to find. In Hui-Neng’s commentary of the Diamond Sutra, he introduces section 7, Realization without attainment is called true realization; teaching without preaching is called true teaching. Therefore the su...
by clyde
Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:56 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 1059

Re: proclaiming awakening

Wayfarer; Thank you for your post. There's a vinaya rule against speaking of spiritual attainments that one hasn't attained; it's a parajika offence. Of course, it’s Wrong Speech. But the rule doesn’t apply to spiritual attainments that one has attained. About your other point, I was vaguely aware o...
by clyde
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:54 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 1059

Re: proclaiming awakening

I don’t doubt that the Dalai Lama and some other living Buddhist teachers in all traditions are enlightened, but why the reluctance to say so? The Buddha wasn’t shy about it. We entered the path presumably because we had faith that the Buddha was actually enlightened. I don’t think the five monks wh...
by clyde
Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:10 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: proclaiming awakening
Replies: 45
Views: 1059

proclaiming awakening

The Buddha proclaimed that he had awakened and in the Buddha’s first discourse, the Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta, and many other suttas and sutras, there are accounts of awakening and the presence of arhats. Yet today, it seems that Buddhist teachers of all traditions (I am reasonably familiar with V...
by clyde
Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:46 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Disagreeing with Guru
Replies: 73
Views: 2959

Re: Disagreeing with Guru

Yes, gurus are not omniscient.
Yes, a guru should be open to sincere questions.
by clyde
Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:41 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Dont follow a lineage (etc.), follow a teacher
Replies: 105
Views: 5928

Re: Dont follow a lineage (etc.), follow a teacher

"what does a living teacher bring to the table that a book, or other static resource, does not?" That’s an interesting but different question, especially as it applies to Zen. A Dharma teacher of any tradition can be a great benefit to a Buddhist practitioner, but in the Zen tradition, a Zen studen...
by clyde
Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:07 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: doctrinal unity
Replies: 18
Views: 802

doctrinal unity

In another thread, Astus wrote: Today there are bigger and smaller organisations (Soto, Jogye, Fo Guang Shan, etc.), but even within those there isn't much of doctrinal unity, not to mention all the Western Zen communities that can operate in complete independence apart from any Asian hierarchy. Whi...

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