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by tkp67
Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:59 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

OK, folks, we have unmistakably crossed into a comparative discussion - the moment we start suggesting what someone believes or doesn't believe outside the Buddhist sphere and arguing about that, we have left the scope of this site. You all are invited to take this over to our sister site, https://...
by tkp67
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:02 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

I am sorry, while I am not able to understand all here, I am wondering something, since this topic turned into Buddha Dharma as different from other religions. May I accept that teachings pointing to not trust the dividing (grasping) mind, is completely not the same as Buddhism would not have its o...
by tkp67
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:56 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

Also it seems to me that compassion and emptiness both have their own appeal and thus drawn in different perspectives that get more value from either one or the other yet "proper" practice manifests both in balanced measure (If I understand correctly) If we are empty and exit emptiness what are we f...
by tkp67
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

if practice is in part realized through elements such as karma and capacity how would everyone be in direct consensus even if we are all full engaged and developmentally relative? Seems any expectation past that is delusional but apparently my mind is grasping and clinging furiously to the notion we...
by tkp67
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:02 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

Simon E. wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:59 pm
I wasn’t responding to your post.
ok how does that change the context of my response as it is open to anyone with an opinion or answer for which there seems to be a wealth of until we broach the point I have asked several times?
by tkp67
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:50 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

I am not interested in a Pan-Buddhism, just as much as I am not interested in ecumenism or perrenialism. M I am interested in mutual respect. I am interested in overcoming sectarianism. I like the fact that there is such an enormous variety of approaches to ethics, morality and liberation. For me i...
by tkp67
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:04 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Split from When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 20
Views: 283

Re: Split from When the Monks Met the Muslims

Well I suppose I did invite that... I should probably say - I no longer consider myself Nichiren Buddhist. I offer my comments only to the extent that this is stuff I know from a long period of study. Well I must say while this might conjure many thoughts and emotions in others I am very grateful f...
by tkp67
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:21 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

It's a quote from the article which apparently is an excerpt from a book. There is no discussion of dialogue in the article really. Read the article. So I should naturally omit how I perceive the presentation based on how you perceived it when that is part of the topic proposed? And for what it is ...
by tkp67
Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:41 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

The original topic of yhis thread is not about dialogue between Buddhists and Muslims, but rather narratives about how Muslim Invaders destroyed or didn't destroy Buddhism in India. as well as this from the main descriptive below the title Revisiting the centuries of Buddhist-Muslim cooperative int...
by tkp67
Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:02 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

if we get past comparison how do the collective buddhist perceptions here feel about muslim to monk dialog and how it should be developed?
by tkp67
Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:05 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

sin is not karma sin is failure to adhere to christian precepts if one obeys a commandment such as thou shall kill is this no longer a merit in buddhist terms because it was in observance of a christian precept? Isn't the stain of murder universal and this an intersection in which both practices hav...
by tkp67
Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:04 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Split from When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 20
Views: 283

Re: Split from When the Monks Met the Muslims

personally I would be impressed if anyone would simply remark on his comment instead of attacking his character Nichiren commented on inability to comment due to lack of wisdom but I am sure every participant in the Nichiren forum has far superior doctrinal recall. Thank you very much for the deep a...
by tkp67
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:58 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

It’s remarkable how frequently we have discussions here, on a Buddhist discussion forum, with nominal Buddhists who claim equivalence between the Dharma and a host of other religions. I don't think that Buddhism has a monopoly on Dharma. Hell, Buddhists even argue among themselves about which Buddh...
by tkp67
Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

The Buddha taught Bodhi. That's all. Everything else may be a means to that, but never equates with Bodhi. Only Bodhi is Bodhi. if you eliminate means is there ever a reason to understand bodhi? i.e. if all suffering is a product of the mind, and the mind is empty of suffering is there still means ...
by tkp67
Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:57 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

Analogies can be validated through the capacities of one's own epistemological capacity coupled with due diligence. In this instance I offered that people might start with dissertations as it is a metric for scholarly merit. The first portion of statement remains, is compassion still compassion by ...
by tkp67
Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:42 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Split from When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 20
Views: 283

Re: Split from When the Monks Met the Muslims

As I understand it both Shakyamuni and Nichiren lived as examples of developmental perfection and it is reflected in the history of their discourse and within is revealed the dharma of the Lotus Sutra. When I think of this I think of Nichiren in his practices prior to the lotus school and considere...
by tkp67
Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:25 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

But we are not talking here about the anecdotal actions of individuals: we’re talking about what the different doctrines actually say. We know that lots of catholic priests molest children. That doesn’t then imply that Catholicism as a religious doctrine encourages or requires this. In any case: I ...
by tkp67
Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:04 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Split from When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 20
Views: 283

Re: Split from When the Monks Met the Muslims

Thank you for the correction I while I feel I understand I still have contention in my mind based on the opening of the eyes and my interpretations of his writings and his life in general. This is not to diminish what you posted but rather to reveal my intent. In my mind i reconciled the filial teac...
by tkp67
Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

there is a philosophical discussion that can aid this outside of any school or religious teaching and it is about the nature of perceived reality and it begins with simple questions? 1) What are the impetus of belief? 2) Is there a benefit to belief outside religion? 3) what does this reveal about t...
by tkp67
Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:05 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: When the Monks Met the Muslims
Replies: 116
Views: 1480

Re: When the Monks Met the Muslims

One of them has a creator god, an immortal soul, no reincarnation, sin. The other has pratityasamutpada, anatman, karma. We could go on but the distinction here is sufficient - this is a gap that cannot be closed by posting some deeper meaning, unless you posit that one side is a provisional teachi...

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