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by ajax
Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:39 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: hello to all
Replies: 1
Views: 321

Re: hello to all

Hi Gena! Welcome to the forum. :smile:
by ajax
Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:10 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

You played your role well, Acchantika. No need to be sorry. :smile:
by ajax
Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:07 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

I've used the words "discernment and moral reasoning" a dozen times in this topic, at least once on every page except for the first page. If I " equate the two " then why say one and the other? Discernment, reasoning, whatever we call it, is a form of conceptual activity. It is not the same as wisd...
by ajax
Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:39 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

What do you think the difference is between discrimination and discernment? I think: In an everyday intellectual context, discernment means conceptual assessment of variances and discrimination means selective treatment on the basis of that recognition. These are the kinds your notion of moral reas...
by ajax
Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:26 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

I'd like to respond to your last post, but I would first ask that you please reconsider the parts where you are telling me what I'm saying and what I mean. It is pointless to discuss things this way, and it's rather rude. This is completely misinterpreting what was intended. Your statements make it...
by ajax
Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:52 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

Acchantika I'd like to respond to your last post, but I would first ask that you please reconsider the parts where you are telling me what I'm saying and what I mean. It is pointless to discuss things this way, and it's rather rude. If you are unclear about something or not sure what I mean you can ...
by ajax
Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:02 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

The boundaries of any system are defined arbitrarily. The boundaries of a system are defined by the system(s). By trying to analyse the conventional as absolute we are taking it to be an attempt to represent reality through concepts. It isn't that, it's a means, not an end. Yes indeed. If every sit...
by ajax
Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:04 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

I believe this also expresses a devaluation of moral reasoning or as he puts it "simplistic moralism." What I think you are not open to is that you are trying to analyse a system of thought in terms of it being a mere organisation of concepts, which it isn't. Hello Acchantika What are you trying to...
by ajax
Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:04 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

Well, no, I meant it more like I wrote above, that some Zen institutions in the West may be placing too much emphasis on emptiness and not enough on a more full expression of Buddhism. A lot of sitting and devaluation of discernment and moral reasoning make Zen master a bad boy, essentially. Can yo...
by ajax
Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:39 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

When misconduct does happen in 'religious' settings, the perpetrator generally maintains a level of denial. He may know it is wrong and make up some excuse, but the excuse will not be something ( a tenet of his beliefs ) that he is willing to 'tarnish'. Generally, it isn't what the preacher profess...
by ajax
Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:16 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

I've just been thinking lately that some Zen institutions in the West may be placing so much emphasis on emptiness that they've lost sight of Buddhism, and that's what might account for the many scandals in Western Zen that we've been hearing about. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think what you ar...
by ajax
Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:09 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

DarwidHalim wrote:What is Zen? Zen is simply a symbol which refer to the reality, which can only be experienced and cannot be utter by words.

So Zen is inexpressible.

How can you ask something which is inexpressible?
The poll does not ask voters to express Zen. It would be nice though if they did. :smile:
by ajax
Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:05 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

An ambiguous question + binary answering option = bad survey. I mean no offense, but I do think you should be open to the possibility that the difficulty in communicating could just as well be at your own side as with a general population of Western zen practitioners. The poll performed it's functi...
by ajax
Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:26 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

Research of emptiness and $3.98 will get you a 711 Big Gulp, alwayson, or a reasonable facsimile. Do you by chance mean experience or realizaiton of emptiness? Click Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9A%C5%ABnyat%C4%81" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I stand corrected. Reading t...
by ajax
Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:36 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

Not to suggest that there is no such thing as non-duality, no, of course not. The existence of non-duality is beyond questioning. A) There is no such a thing as non-duality B) The existene of non-duality is not beyond question in any sense. N I was being sarcastical. And yes I know, that's not a wo...
by ajax
Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:19 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

Research of emptiness and $3.98 will get you a 711 Big Gulp, alwayson, or a reasonable facsimile. Do you by chance mean experience or realizaiton of emptiness?
by ajax
Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:40 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

I think it will give you an understanding of what going beyond dualistic thinking is, and that also includes the tendency to define things as either rational or irrational. Hello PadmaVonSamba I will try to explain again. Here's the first stanza of SHINJIN-NO-MEI The Perfect Way knows no difficulti...
by ajax
Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:46 am
Forum: News & Current Events
Topic: They killed him!
Replies: 39
Views: 3902

Re: They killed him!

I wonder if the French acknowledge that America saved France in World War II ? Don't be ridiculous, everybody knows today that Russians won the war ... they do not tell you that in your books? :alien: Sönam Some French actually fought against allied forces in the war... according to the books. http...
by ajax
Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:18 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

I think you misunderstand what PadmaVonSamba said. Rational/irrational (as judged by someone not adept in Buddhism) isn't of concern to them. Yes exactly, the judgement of Zen being characterized as rational or not (you wrote irrational ) is irrelevant to those who are not constrained by that belie...
by ajax
Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:12 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Replies: 141
Views: 14128

Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality

Yes, poor Achilles.

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