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by tatpurusa
Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:06 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Freemasonry
Replies: 94
Views: 1825

Re: Freemasonry

I think the only interesting person within the whole Theosophy was Jiddu Krishnamurti, but he also only after having left it.
by tatpurusa
Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:49 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Are there any schools of Mahayana or Vajrayana that do not use Yogacara "all is mind" type language nor teachings?
Replies: 12
Views: 421

Re: Are there any schools of Mahayana or Vajrayana that do not use Yogacara "all is mind" type language nor teachings?

This hypothetical school would say: "Mind is temporary and dependent." And would not say "All is mind" under any circumstances, nor anything like that, to avoid confounding morons like me. "Mind is temporary and dependent." is not easily misinterpreted in any way that reifies the mind as the statem...
by tatpurusa
Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:14 am
Forum: Shrine Room
Topic: How does offering music work?
Replies: 8
Views: 399

Re: How does offering music work?

When one offers music via playing a bell, drumming, singing, gongs, bowls, horns, flutes, strings, etc. how does one offer it? Offer the instrument and visualize it resonating divine sounds? Play the instrument and recite mantras while doing so (or recite the mantras before or after playing?)? I ha...
by tatpurusa
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:54 pm
Forum: Discovering Mahayana Buddhism
Topic: Non-Attachment vs. Dettachment
Replies: 12
Views: 330

Re: Non-Attachment vs. Dettachment

How does this athlete find daily motivation to strenuously train but not care about the result. Isn't effort/sacrifice ties to motivation to get desired outcome? When I try to practice non-attachment in my daily life, it feels like I am becoming an emotional zombie or emotionally numb. .... What am...
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:42 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen
Replies: 139
Views: 3728

Re: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen

... claim special knowledge based on yogic vision, similar to the Buddha's statements about past Buddhas and so on in his past lives. But these are just articles of faith, since they cannot be confirmed with ordinary perception. So what is the difference between New age channelings and yogic vision...
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:33 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Our Anti-War President
Replies: 92
Views: 3845

Re: Our Anti-War President

Scrap NATO at your peril. I don't know about you, but I much prefer the liberal democracy of the Western Alliance to the alternative. In case you haven't noticed, the EU still very much wants to be a part of NATO, even though Trump has shaken their confidence in our participation. I just hope your ...
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:28 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen
Replies: 139
Views: 3728

Re: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen

... claim special knowledge based on yogic vision, similar to the Buddha's statements about past Buddhas and so on in his past lives. But these are just articles of faith, since they cannot be confirmed with ordinary perception. So what is the difference between New age channelings and yogic vision...
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:57 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen
Replies: 139
Views: 3728

Re: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen

Pure vision is one thing; history quite another, as Norbu RInpoche remarks the book I mentioned above. This is exactly what I am interested in. So if you are generous enough - I would appreciate your thoughts by private message (as you told it is not suitable on a public board.) So if this is not j...
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:41 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen
Replies: 139
Views: 3728

Re: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen

Just as there are Buddhists myths, legends, and history, there are Bonpo myths, legend, and history. What is the meaning of myths, legend, and history in your opinion from the point of view of tögal visions? I don't discuss thogal in public forums. It is not suitable. I would very much appreciate y...
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:37 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Our Anti-War President
Replies: 92
Views: 3845

Re: Our Anti-War President

Trump is not smart enough to stay in power forever, though he yearns for it, emulating his dictator buddies. He is out in 1 year or 5 at the most. If the people in the US are sufficiently smart, they will deny him a second term. In the short term, of course Trump is a greater risk to world safety, ...
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:34 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen
Replies: 139
Views: 3728

Re: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen

By the beginning of this current eon, would it mean this Kalpa or Mahakalpa? In any case, yeah it’s hard to know what aspects of Bön/Dharma Teachings may or may not be literal; but I have confidence that it is possible to know directly, as one progresses on the Path. Yes. Knowing directly is possib...
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:29 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen
Replies: 139
Views: 3728

Re: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen

Malcolm wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:25 pm
Just as there are Buddhists myths, legends, and history, there are Bonpo myths, legend, and history.
What is the meaning of myths, legend, and history in your opinion from the point of view of tögal visions?
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:18 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen
Replies: 139
Views: 3728

Re: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen

Yes, I have this. You can believe this Bonpo mythology if you want. I prefer the Buddhist mythology . Exactly my point here: https://dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=32716#p515413 Oh, you misunderstood-- there is no chance Dzogchen existed in Tibet prior to the introduction of Buddhism. I was m...
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:15 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Our Anti-War President
Replies: 92
Views: 3845

Re: Our Anti-War President

RT is just an instrument of the Russian Gvt. They are a state run media conglomerate, like the BBC, CBC, etc. The difference is that I don't trust them. The Russians have a vested interest in undoing the Atlantic Alliance. I like the Atlantic Alliance. A weak Russia makes for a safer world. Funny y...
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:11 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen
Replies: 139
Views: 3728

Re: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen

Here is the Bon lineage tree. No. 3. is Buddha Tonpa Shenrab. See how after No. 9 Sangwa Düpa, who is Buddha Shakyamuni, it got forked and went to another lineage. No. 6 in that second lineage is Zhang-Zhung Garab Dorje (possibly same as Buddhist Garab Dorje), master of Manjushrimitra. Yes, I have ...
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:06 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen
Replies: 139
Views: 3728

Re: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen

Here is the Bon lineage tree. No. 3. is Buddha Tonpa Shenrab.
See how after No. 9 Sangwa Düpa, who is Buddha Shakyamuni, it got forked and went to another lineage. No. 6 in that second lineage is Zhang-Zhung Garab Dorje (possibly same as Buddhist Garab Dorje), master of Manjushrimitra.
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by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:44 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen
Replies: 139
Views: 3728

Re: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen

If the Bonpos had Dzogchen teachings circa 770, why would Trisrong Detsen send a teenager to India to recover them? It does not make any sense whatsoever to make this kind of claim. Because he was Tibetan, not Zhag-Zhung. Dzogchen at that time was in Zhang-Zhung, not in Tibet. Then this pretty much...
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:42 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: Our Anti-War President
Replies: 92
Views: 3845

Re: Our Anti-War President

Conspiracy theories are birthed in paranoia. With the very same logic, if you label the whole of RT just agitprop as you did, you qualify as a conspiracy theorist. I bet you still believe in Russian meddling ... RT is just an instrument of the Russian Gvt. They are a state run media conglomerate, l...
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:31 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen
Replies: 139
Views: 3728

Re: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen

Perhaps Vairotsana received Bön Dzogchen, yet never had any reason to transmit it to anyone else. If the Bonpos had Dzogchen teachings circa 770, why would Trisrong Detsen send a teenager to India to recover them? It does not make any sense whatsoever to make this kind of claim. Because he was Tibe...
by tatpurusa
Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:03 pm
Forum: Dzogchen
Topic: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen
Replies: 139
Views: 3728

Re: Practical difference between Bön and Nyingma Dzogchen

I have no issue with people saying that Jesus is my lord and savior, likewise, I don't believe it, just as I don't believe that Tonpa Shenrab came to Tibet in the middle of the last ice age. No Bonpo has ever stated that Tonpa Shenrab lived in Tibet, ever. And you should know it. You are just being...

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