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by seeker242
Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:08 pm
Forum: East Asian Buddhism
Topic: Five Pungent Roots in the Sutras
Replies: 13
Views: 160

Re: Five Pungent Roots in the Sutras

Chapter 8 of the Lankavatara Sutra mention "refrain from meat, onions, various kinds of liquor, allium, and garlic". But technically, allium include onions and garlic as allium mean various species of plants, including onion, garlic, scallion, shallot, leek, chives, etc. Asafoetida is a resin, of a ...
by seeker242
Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:06 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Linjii Rinzai radical?
Replies: 14
Views: 458

Re: Linjii Rinzai radical?

LastLegend wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:44 am

Any thoughts?
―You can‘t hammer a nail into the empty sky. :jumping:
by seeker242
Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:54 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Express your Zen in 10 words.
Replies: 44
Views: 1192

Re: Express your Zen in 10 words.

Dogs bark, birds chirp, why is that not good enough?
by seeker242
Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

Interesting I didn't know that was the medium. Even if it were grown in a veg medium, just no..... So how will we solve a growing world population wanting meat if not by technology? I think it's probably the least cruel solution.... gassho Rory Most, if not all, vegans would be overjoyed if everyon...
by seeker242
Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:15 am
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

Maybe. Depends on how healthy it is. More critically, will it be vegan? I imagine it would be like an MP3 to Live Music, even when its perfected. QQ, I would never eat it, cannot imagine it would be regarded as vegan. Technically, no it wouldn't be vegan as long as they are using Fetal bovine serum...
by seeker242
Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

With respect, you are deeply missing the point. With respect, you are deeply missing the point of veganism when you try to assert that the whole of veganism can be invalidated simply because of backyard chickens. You are right, the thread is about veganism. So, lets talk about the central issues of...
by seeker242
Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:14 am
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

If you're a vegan and you eat eggs, do you serve them with contradictions? The Vegan society defines Veganism as: "There are many ways to embrace vegan living. Yet one thing all vegans have in common is a plant-based diet avoiding all animal foods such as meat (including fish, shellfish and insects...
by seeker242
Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:43 am
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

Moreover, you are clearly engaging in whataboutery. What is interesting is the exact same thing can be said about your select single example of backyard chickens and only backyard chickens. AKA, well what about backyard chickens?! It is you who is neither addressing nor defending the central princi...
by seeker242
Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:41 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

Maybe, but while you loudly protest against the killing of animals, you don't protest and do exactly nothing at all against: 1. That your country was established by means of extreme genocide unseen before in human history. 2. That your country destroyed Europe in 2 unnecessary wars, cynically claim...
by seeker242
Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:35 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

I'm not arguing "in favor" of industrial meat production, It's not just about "industrial" meat production, it's about any meat production because like I said, the only way to get meat is to slit the throat of an animal regardless if it is industrial or not. I'm just saying it's not my priority to ...
by seeker242
Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:05 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

As nobody was defending such practices in this thread, (at least not known to me) this one seems one more strawman argument. Defending meat production is itself defending those practices as that is the only way you get meat to begin with. You can't get meat without slitting some throats, a lot of t...
by seeker242
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:41 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

How anyone could even begin to defend such practices, just doesn't make any sense. As nobody was defending such practices in this thread, (at least not known to me) this one seems one more strawman argument. Defending meat production is itself defending those practices as that is the only way you g...
by seeker242
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:02 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

This has been making the rounds on the internet lately. It's a perspective on the issue that most people don't even think about. It most certinly should be considered. Animals aren't the only ones harmed by these practices. Foul language obscured. "It's all fun and games till you actually work in a ...
by seeker242
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:50 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

Veganism addresses actual reality, not unrealistic imaginary scenarios, like all eggs coming from backyard chickens. It's a moot point because it's unrealistic and impossible for all eggs to come from backyard chickens. Veganism addresses actual reality, not unrealistic imaginary scenarios. However,...
by seeker242
Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

There is a vegetarian thread. This is a vegan thread. Can some one please try and defend the proposition that eating eggs from well kept chickens in your back garden is contrary to Dharma? If no one can defend that, then we can consider the matter settled and close the thread. How can the world be ...
by seeker242
Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:28 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

You are free to have your opinion. I’m free to call out it’s nonsense. However, freedom stops when you start infringing on the freedom of others, which is exactly what meat production does to animals. No one has the right to enslave and kill others no matter how much people want that to be the case,...
by seeker242
Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:42 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

And at the same time the Buddha declared business in meat as wrong livelihood, which means that yes there is something wrong with what goes on at a slaughterhouse. As for choice, as was stated before, it does not meet the definition a personal choice as the very definition of personal choice means i...
by seeker242
Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:35 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

You were following me on E Sangha? I was never even on E Sangha... No it isn’t relevant. If you actually follow the ruthless logic of Buddha dharma it says non-violence towards animals, over and over and over. Therefore, violence towards them is inappropriate and that’s all there is to it. It doesn’...
by seeker242
Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:08 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

I'm disputing the assertion that it's somehow relevant, because it's not. It doesn't matter if animals are born in that realm due to karma-vipaka or not. And it doesn't matter that the Animal Realm is one of the inauspicious realms or not. Either way, it's still not appropriate to exploit and kill t...
by seeker242
Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:27 pm
Forum: Wellness, Diet and Fitness
Topic: Great Vegan Debate
Replies: 580
Views: 33124

Re: Great Vegan Debate

It is meaningless to speak of attributing choice to animals or not, when the topic of conversation is whether or not it's appropriate to choose to exploit and kill them.

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