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by Matylda
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:03 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

Generally zen teachers, whether in the East or the West carry extremely heavy burden of responsibility, and if they take things lightly or without self criticism then only they will be resposnsible for this that something was missing in heir teachings and training. 'If sentient beings encounter som...
by Matylda
Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:05 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

You can decide for yourself who’s real and who’s not. Clyde thank you for your answer and care. I did not deny any of those people to be zen teacher. They are in fact, since due to causes and conditions they were put in the position. But when we touch awakening it is very different matter. There is...
by Matylda
Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:40 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: in defense
Replies: 63
Views: 1086

Re: in defense

Do you also believe that there are "probably" only 3 Zen masters in Japan that have had some degree of awakening? According to what Matylda later claims, you would have to be awakened in order to know this, and also know that none of the Westerners you've met have any degree of awakening. in this c...
by Matylda
Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:22 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: in defense
Replies: 63
Views: 1086

Re: in defense

The question was very simple and straight - Are zen teachers awakened? Isn't it? I gave the answer - NO. Then in the course of the discussion i gave the reason why I think NO. There were many yes/no other posts. In the meantime I got a few private massages, some pretty abusive. Probably I have offen...
by Matylda
Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:21 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

Well I think it is a joke, right? This comment and others you have made, such as koan study being "senseless" (i.e., pointless, stupid,, etc.) are inappropriate (they "question or critique teachings and practices of traditions in sub-forums dedicated to those particular traditions.") So not interes...
by Matylda
Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:57 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

When I did Mu, the whole universe was Mu. When I went to the toilet, the whole universe followed me to the toilet. Whatever I do, the whole universe does the same, no gap at all - when I shout "aaaah", the whole universe is just "aaaah" - no gap, no separation, just oneness. The whole universe is j...
by Matylda
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:37 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

Especially under the circumstance when the student is in the room with the teacher, and the student passes Mu and has that "bottom drops out" moment, this drama does not happen anymore, bottom dropping out - it comes from very old texts of Chinese masters who came over to Japan in Kamakura era. tod...
by Matylda
Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:44 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

Especially under the circumstance when the student is in the room with the teacher, and the student passes Mu and has that "bottom drops out" moment, this drama does not happen anymore, bottom dropping out - it comes from very old texts of Chinese masters who came over to Japan in Kamakura era. tod...
by Matylda
Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:38 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

Calling koan training "senseless" is meant to be a criticism, right yes in fact it is... in modern koan training kensho is very rare. And there are so many koans that finally people who do it, must count their passed koans, and somehow it becomes aimless. A few rinzai shike picked up this subject a...
by Matylda
Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:20 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

However, there is one thing it’s not often talked about is a state that doesn’t have delusional thoughts, it’s clear and alert. Yet it’s mistaken for final enlightenment. This is probably where most Zen masters have achieved. This is the very issue. I might be wrong. Clear and alert is comparativel...
by Matylda
Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:27 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

Teaching becoming an object for individual intellect is indeed strong. . This needs care while of course some guidance is necessary. Zen instructions are very very simple... just body breath and proper focus. There is not much to add to it One learns zen more through the body than teaching in the s...
by Matylda
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:24 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

What I think you're trying to say is that Eastern culture tends to be more holistic and Western culture tends to be more individualistic. Buddhism could be seen as being more holistic than individualistic, and therefore more easily integrated into a culture that tends to value holism. On the other ...
by Matylda
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:05 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

Malcolm wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:49 am
Matylda wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:55 pm
avatamsaka3 wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:48 pm


Then why don't you explain it?
I just did it.
If I am ever in Japan, I’m inviting You to dinner at your favorite restaurant.
:thanks: but you cannot afford it :D
by Matylda
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:02 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

Emotional or intellectual, both can give problems. Like in the Himalayas ( perhaps not in Japan) empowerments are very important, the teaching not always. In the West even the empowerment becomes a thing to talk-know intellectually about. People always have to show their best, to prove. No wonder m...
by Matylda
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:55 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

avatamsaka3 wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:48 pm
It is rather simple, but difficult to apprehend perhaps.
Then why don't you explain it?
I just did it.
by Matylda
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:37 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

Well, without the ability to prove the claim you can only give reasons for why it might be true. It is rather simple, but difficult to apprehend perhaps. In the West people tend to think too much, and this thinking is pretty sophisticated and very valued. Over thinking and overtalking are its marks...
by Matylda
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:05 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

it is the case all over East Asia. over 90% of Chinese monks received dharma transmission. It became a custom, withoutreal meaning. The same is in soto zen in Japan, it is still different in rinzai, but situtation is not good, since it is possible to receive dharma transmission without genuine insi...
by Matylda
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:58 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

'In actuality this kind of "dharma transmission" has become a formality in the Ch'an sect. It is a million miles away from the dharma transmission by the direct imprint of mind on mind. This kind of dharma transmission is simply a traditional formality of genealogical succession.' it is the case al...
by Matylda
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:29 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

I see the great difficulty in transferring zen or dharma in general and any Buddhist tradition to the hemisphere which was under completely different religious or culture influence for thousands of years. Every culture has a tendency to believe it's superior to all others. That's perfectly natural....
by Matylda
Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:55 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Are Zen teachers awakened?
Replies: 228
Views: 5732

Re: Are Zen teachers awakened?

The difficulty for a lot of western practitioners, though, is that they often lack an understanding of what they're receiving, and/or don't invest the time and effort to understand it, and instead interpret it through the lens of their own cultural background and experience. When you read what west...

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