Dharma Wheel

Dorje Drakpo Tsal https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/QrT6ORu_cV2zC99D5RHWqZ8IrfF46cluu7wzVKMTjbVWwSYQnTkKaKT4QUCuUaUryPpbFGrhFHZX5laLvG1paA5qkFip22_60KbD2Qge3elRT7FfL8ABXdjbOib2WHWvltelgG-IIg=w1106-h1262-no Kalden Drenze https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JE9SOT0bYqHx1zNZtwpJzto1j56Aghkc3KDXdBT9GzxvrD...

Dzam Ling Gyen Chok, you got it above. Pemajungné https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/PW72tdgNxVbJ4-FrUI4ruKmFJLRA9es8UDBVBhSp1GetWA_H-9Ky7AUcW0i_ayxqOu-40sIVGddrcyTEejxs45gJ9_1WjuWxuXtVoy18bUC0G9zEUnMeqyst03Owzg2_taP35rR6Hw=w1278-h1262-no Khyépar Pakpé Rigdzin https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VFJ7RP...

Gyalwé Dungdzin,sometimes also standing. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tEBBkzYtbEy6MRFwEywSxbwI2gukc2STNgWU8KeotSN2__u-fUaC7nyJAF7Ixflv21SJVrCAD3SWz_tiny9z5CLqkJcGtUcxzfP1kkeUYX5xT908ArhocFu01DvHoSkGsWFviy9chA=w1120-h1262-no Mawey Senghe https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tveZxSkEs3-NrTm8PFCGnF93...

Tenma wrote: ↑

Sun May 20, 2018 11:27 pm

THAT'S YOUTHFUL AND PEACEFUL??!??!?!?!?

Yes, that is the deity.

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https://busbebis.tigersmith.net/DzamLingGyenChok.png /magnus The image didn't display for me. Looking into why, I get a browser security issue with the site the image is on. For others who may also have display problems with the image: DzamLingGyenChok.png Sorry about that, this should work better....

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Tenma wrote: ↑

Sat May 19, 2018 7:54 am

Does anyone know of a thangka corresponding with the visualization of the 8 forms of Padmasambhava described in this text:
http://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-mas ... che-lamsel
And which is which? Thanks!

It is actually 12 manifestations in this mandala.

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Does anyone know of a thangka corresponding with the visualization of the 8 forms of Padmasambhava described in this text: http://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-masters/chokgyur-dechen-lingpa/barche-lamsel And which is which? Thanks! The prayer correspond with Mandala of Tukdrub Barche Kunsel: http:/...

maybe it is this one :shrug: https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fc1.staticflickr.com%2F6%2F5517%2F9183667160_5ae9314c77_b.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Flaoniem%2F9183667160&docid=ji_98aVBJ_PwbM&tbnid=AaG1jqh_J-46vM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwidlb-gx5PbAhWlFZoKHV_nBpAQMwg6...

Does anyone know of a thangka corresponding with the visualization of the 8 forms of Padmasambhava described in this text: http://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-masters/chokgyur-dechen-lingpa/barche-lamsel And which is which? Thanks! The prayer correspond with Mandala of Tukdrub Barche Kunsel: http:/...

Also, here you got a lot of Dudjom Throma material https://www.berotsana.org/collections/t ... blications

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Read any book on the 84 mahasiddhas. A few of them where not Buddhists but attained the same level of realisation. /magnus I don't recall any of their stories saying that they attained the Bhumis like the Buddhist ones did. Can you give me a source? Any book, if you are a siddha you have attained r...

And a few ones of them - according to Buddhist sources - were actually non-Buddhists. AFAIK the non-Buddhist ones are not described as having actually attained Mahasiddhi. Read any book on the 84 mahasiddhas. A few of them where not Buddhists but attained the same level of realisation. /magnus

I have read about that but I was wondering about this time specifically. It is always a donwang if it is on webcast, in my experience at least. /magnus It was not webcasted. I think it was not a tonwang but I am not sure. If Rinpoche used things like a bumpa it was probably the full extended empowe...

Does someone know if the Mandarava initiation that ChNNR gave in the last Mandarava drubchen was a tonwang? Or, if not, what was it? He normally gives a donwang, a "meaning empowerment" as in the real meaning is transmitted in a concise way. /magnus I have read about that but I was wondering about ...

Aryjna wrote: ↑

Thu May 10, 2018 4:17 pm

Does someone know if the Mandarava initiation that ChNNR gave in the last Mandarava drubchen was a tonwang? Or, if not, what was it?

He normally gives a donwang, a "meaning empowerment" as in the real meaning is transmitted in a concise way.

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What precisely is being referred to when an initiation is listed as a "ripening" empowerment? Would this be rendered back into Sanskrit properly as vipāka abhiśeka ? The term in Tibetan seems to be smin byed kyi dbang (see attachment ;) ). By that definition, aren't all initiations considered ripen...

Kind of makes sense. /magnus Actually, I can't find a source that lists him as a Terton other than the Rigpawiki, and I think they're basing that off the fact that he revealed pure visions. It says that he had pure visions of Guru Rinpoche, and that he practiced Kurukulle. Putting all that together...

Possible, though there's some Geluk iconography which makes me question that--Gelukpas are pretty specific about what Terma they incorporate. The only Chagdrupas outside of the Shangpa traditions I'm aware of are one from Chogling Tersar, and I think one from Jangter. I'm 100% sure the above is fro...

Very interesting, and not part of the traditional 13 transmissions of the Six Armed Protector according to the Shangpa Kagyu. There are Yabyum Chagdrupas, but the White one is not one of them. It is possibly not "correct," and the variety of deities and lineage figures indicates quite a mix....... ...