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by Queequeg
Fri May 29, 2020 10:05 pm
Forum: Discovering Mahayana Buddhism
Topic: Abhidharmakosabhasyam Book Club
Replies: 6
Views: 58

Re: Abhidharmakosabhasyam Book Club

Thanks, M. That's the kind of input we were hoping for.

In terms of the path - is that because its the Sarvastivadin path that is described there?
by Queequeg
Fri May 29, 2020 9:49 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’



I kid.
by Queequeg
Fri May 29, 2020 9:42 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

I was going to respond, but then saw the posts above.

Oh, my.
by Queequeg
Fri May 29, 2020 9:35 pm
Forum: Discovering Mahayana Buddhism
Topic: Abhidharmakosabhasyam Book Club
Replies: 6
Views: 58

Abhidharmakosabhasyam Book Club

Jake and I have been discussing our interest in studying the Abhidharmakosabhasyam of Vasubandhu (the "Kosa") recently and thought we might give it a shot as a book club here on DW. Seeing that others might have an interest, and hoping to capitalize on the collection of learned members here who migh...
by Queequeg
Fri May 29, 2020 9:14 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

LastLegend wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 6:23 pm
It’s personal preference has nothing to do with who is right.
Intelligibility is a reasonably objective standard. But sure.
by Queequeg
Fri May 29, 2020 6:19 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

LL, please note, I'm kind of teasing you and mean it in fun.
by Queequeg
Fri May 29, 2020 6:14 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

The problem is, unless people have been around a while, its not obvious that you're just trying to practice with your posts. Maybe you need a disclaimer in your signature or something. "If it appears I'm not making any sense, its because I'm trying to put into words the experience of the inconceivab...
by Queequeg
Fri May 29, 2020 6:09 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

When you interject into threads with your "practice", you do kind of force it on others. But we're free to ignore you also, I suppose.
by Queequeg
Fri May 29, 2020 5:57 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

I personally disagree with the way the question is answered. A lot of times I don’t personally ask myself the right questions either. I know it’s not the best practice for TOS, but question like what is the absolute should one to look and experience it? It’s not an easy thing to do. Not an easy tas...
by Queequeg
Fri May 29, 2020 5:10 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

Anyway, doesn't matter. As an exercise for my own edification, to connect Absolute Truth to the nullity of the Absolute and connect Malcolm's comment... On close examination, Absolute Truth itself is a convention that is empty for the same reason that all conventions are empty. This is the so-called...
by Queequeg
Fri May 29, 2020 3:56 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

npr wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 2:16 pm
( The reason I asked here is, that a while ago, I saw in this book t.ly/wEcv some references to this term )
by Queequeg
Fri May 29, 2020 2:02 am
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

You can't negate something that isn't there in the first place. If I say "there is no such thing as the horns of a rabbit", all I'm really saying is the horns of a rabbit do not arise. But addressing Malcolm's comment, I think this comment is remarking on the title of the thread without regard for ...
by Queequeg
Thu May 28, 2020 7:04 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

There is no absolute, so how can Zen have a standpoint regarding it? Negating it is also a stand. You can't negate something that isn't there in the first place. If I say "there is no such thing as the horns of a rabbit", all I'm really saying is the horns of a rabbit do not arise. But addressing M...
by Queequeg
Thu May 28, 2020 6:58 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

npr wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 6:45 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 6:38 pm
There is no absolute, so how can Zen have a standpoint regarding it?
Negating it is also a stand.
You can't negate something that isn't there in the first place.

If I say "there is no such thing as the horns of a rabbit", all I'm really saying is the horns of a rabbit do not arise.
by Queequeg
Thu May 28, 2020 6:57 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

A delusion. Is any experience a delusion? love too? (https://suttacentral.net/sn46.62/en/sujato) That sutta is not talking about "love" like in a Romcom. Its talking about metta. Metta has no direct translation into English, although sometimes its called love, or loving kindness. Its a non-grasping...
by Queequeg
Thu May 28, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

I added more. Too fast.
by Queequeg
Thu May 28, 2020 6:21 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

I only saw it in a translation of Huang Po's teaching To me it seems clear that there must be something changeless and unconditioned to perceive all empty and ever changing phenomena. There is. How can we be it? --- An (empty) object which undergoes a change, truly speaking, ceases to exist and a n...
by Queequeg
Wed May 27, 2020 5:28 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

How I am supposed to tell you without being non-sensical that it also takes me 10 years to recognize what’s behind moving feet and hands (scratching)? I think you just did. One does not need to resort to free form word associations to impress that understanding even a simple movement like walking i...
by Queequeg
Wed May 27, 2020 4:15 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

Not all language is suitable for everyone. I personally don’t find Madhyamaka attractive. Also, it took me 10 years to understand the Flower Sermon. Understanding even with experience (it’s still a trap) doesn’t mean fully unveiled it. So are what so called insights. Before Miles Davis made like Pi...
by Queequeg
Wed May 27, 2020 3:30 pm
Forum: Zen
Topic: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’
Replies: 128
Views: 1530

Re: Zen’s stand regarding ‘The Absolute’

I well understand using literary devices to undermine grasping. This is not unique to Zen and is found in many Mahayana sutras. The Vimalakirtinirdesa and Suramgama come to mind. I understand they have been influential in Zen traditions and its not a big leap to go from Vimalakirti's silence to vari...

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