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by Queequeg
Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:34 am
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)
Replies: 64
Views: 654

Re: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)

Coëmgenu wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:33 am
illarraza wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:04 am
*Not to be confused with Tientai the Great of India.
China. Tiantai is Chinese. Tendai is Tiantai's Japanese son.
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by Queequeg
Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:14 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)
Replies: 64
Views: 654

Re: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)

Doc,
Instead of posting walls of copy pasta, in your own words, define Hongaku.
Let's start there.
by Queequeg
Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:05 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: On the Rohingya in Myanmar
Replies: 20
Views: 1372

Re: On the Rohingya in Myanmar

Myanmar and Rohingya: the history of ever ... I have no informed opinion on the historical and present political forces at work in Burma/Myanmar. It is however categorically untenable that any teaching of the Buddha could be held up to justify the treatment of the Rohingya and people dressed in mon...
by Queequeg
Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:59 pm
Forum: Tendai
Topic: Mohe Zhiguan Study Thread 摩訶止觀 Part 1
Replies: 6
Views: 153

Re: Mohe Zhiguan Study Thread 摩訶止觀 Part 1

Jikai, I don't want to hijack this thread, but I have a question about Hochibo Shoshin - do you know of any English language studies or translations? The reason I ask is because my curiosity is piqued - he slightly predates Nichiren who I think might have been following in his footsteps in seeking t...
by Queequeg
Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:51 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)
Replies: 64
Views: 654

Re: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)

:rolling:

Some people will never be happy with anything except absolute fealty to what they say is the Law.

For those of us who don't mind stepping into the ambiguity and uncertainty, let's continue.
by Queequeg
Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:47 pm
Forum: Tendai
Topic: Mohe Zhiguan Study Thread 摩訶止觀 Part 1
Replies: 6
Views: 153

Re: Mohe Zhiguan Study Thread 摩訶止觀 Part 1

"... the "Tiantai learning curve" grows quickly and broadly from the very beginning."

You are not kidding! That is a daunting syllabus!

Looking forward to jumping in.

Do you have citations for the texts you include in the Study Materials that have been translated into English?
by Queequeg
Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:59 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)
Replies: 64
Views: 654

Re: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)

As a follow up -

Part of the reason Hongaku has become a big issue is because of the waves of controversy stirred up by Critical Buddhism.
by Queequeg
Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:55 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: On the Rohingya in Myanmar
Replies: 20
Views: 1372

Re: On the Rohingya in Myanmar

Myanmar and Rohingya: the history of ever ... I have no informed opinion on the historical and present political forces at work in Burma/Myanmar. It is however categorically untenable that any teaching of the Buddha could be held up to justify the treatment of the Rohingya and people dressed in mon...
by Queequeg
Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:36 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)
Replies: 64
Views: 654

Re: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)

so there is no hongaku according to Nichiren DaiShonin ? he was not into original enlightenment and some guy decided He was? i'm confused now. Did Ven Nichiren actually ever say hongaku ? I know that it is considered consonant with his teachings, but did he himself ever use the term? I am wondering...
by Queequeg
Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:03 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)
Replies: 64
Views: 654

Re: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)

Minobu wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:27 pm
i was not screaming fire Q...
I did not say you were. If you see my responses to Illaraza, I think its obvious who I think IS yelling fire.
by Queequeg
Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:57 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nichiren's problematic works
Replies: 4
Views: 116

Re: Nichiren's problematic works

The passage is reasonably clear: in interpreting this central part of the “Lotus Sutra” Honda makes it clear that the Buddha spoken of in Chapter Sixteen is of a concrete or tangible character (gutaikaku) relating to the Enjoyment and Response Bodies (hojin and ojin) and he utilizes a phrase from t...
by Queequeg
Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:25 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)
Replies: 64
Views: 654

Re: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)

We've been wrestling with identifying authentic teachings since the Buddha's parinirvana. There are at least some scholarly opinions that believe no conclusion can be made about the authenticity of this letter because it is consistent with authentic letters. I linked to an article about this. If ide...
by Queequeg
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Nichiren's problematic works
Replies: 4
Views: 116

Re: Nichiren's problematic works

One last thought... were it true that the common mortal endowed the Eternal Buddha with the Three Virtues (Shoho Jisso Sho) then, according to SGI's Nichiren as Eternal Buddha theory, the common mortal is greater than Nichiren not just Shakyamuni. Don't you see the inconsistancies? For one, I don't...
by Queequeg
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:10 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Happy New Year!
Replies: 11
Views: 239

Re: Happy New Year!

Ayu wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:56 am
As far as I can see two weeks later: it is possible. I have to remember to relax only. And don't take everything too seriously. :thumbsup:
Wonderful!
Moment by moment! :smile:
by Queequeg
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:08 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)
Replies: 64
Views: 654

Re: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)

Marc Strumpf wrote: "There are original Gosho written to Sairenbo. This Gosho is not one of them. The Sho Ho Jisso Sho is thought to have been written by three separate people. This is a conclusion consistent among serious Nichiren Buddhist scholars. The first part was likely a fragment of a real G...
by Queequeg
Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:45 pm
Forum: Media
Topic: Upcoming TV Show with Buddhist Main Character
Replies: 9
Views: 260

Re: Upcoming TV Show with Buddhist Main Character

Almost as bad as a terrible actor destroying any chance of suspending disbelief. ie. Keanu Reeves in Dangerous Liaisons and Sophia Coppola in Godfather III. :rolling: What about Keanu Reeves in Little Buddha? Keanu Reeves is a *unique* actor in that he is generally terrible except when he gets to p...
by Queequeg
Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:24 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)
Replies: 64
Views: 654

Re: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)

LOL. IIRC, in the Vimalakirti sutra, the proper approach to understanding sunyata is a matter of getting used to it.
by Queequeg
Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:22 pm
Forum: Soka Gakkai/SGI
Topic: The acceptable bounds of behavior - Split from discussion of Shoho Jisso Sho
Replies: 11
Views: 139

Re: The acceptable bounds of behavior - Split from discussion of Shoho Jisso Sho

As for my mother's advice...it was hard coded Gakki training... She explained to the woman this was her Karma...She councilled her to keep chanting for this had to be eradicated from her life.. she pointed out her previous marriage had the same identical outcome...her showing up at my mother's with...
by Queequeg
Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Dream state/Waking state
Replies: 1
Views: 61

Re: Dream state/Waking state

Check out that article by Swanson I linked to in the Shohojissosho thread. Unfortunately, the original document he is referring to has not been translated in whole. However, the dream state/ waking state relates to the difference between provisional and real, trace and original, function and essence...
by Queequeg
Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:48 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)
Replies: 64
Views: 654

Re: Shoho Jisso Sho (All Phenomena as Ultimate Reality)

I was vaguely aware that some consider it an inauthentic writing, but Nichiren Shu evidently considers it to be authentic. On re-reading it, especially the NOPPA translation, it seems to be saying something very different from the hongaku "we're all Buddhas just as we are" line. see this is a probl...