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by Queequeg
Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:11 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

The dharmadhātu is not a collection of all dharmas. The dharmadhātu is the nature of all dharmas. LOL, yes, that's all that term means. Come on. In one place you claim a given particular dharma is the dharmadhātu (x=y); in the next place you claim that any given dharma exists because all dharmas ex...
by Queequeg
Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:44 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

Are you using this as a proof, or are you asking me a question? My comments are rhetorical. My answer to your question is this basic teaching on dependent origination. Each particular dharma is, because all other dharmas (collectively, dharmadhatu) are. The dharmadhātu is not a collection of all dh...
by Queequeg
Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:51 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

When this is, that is. From the arising of this comes the arising of that. When this isn't, that isn't. From the cessation of this comes the cessation of that. Basic. Critical. Profound? :shrug: Are you using this as a proof, or are you asking me a question? My comments are rhetorical. My answer to...
by Queequeg
Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:59 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

When this is, that is.
From the arising of this comes the arising of that.
When this isn't, that isn't.
From the cessation of this comes the cessation of that.
Basic. Critical. Profound? :shrug:
by Queequeg
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:04 pm
Forum: Nichiren
Topic: How do I stop feeling drawn back to the beliefs that I grew up with?
Replies: 7
Views: 187

Re: How do I stop feeling drawn back to the beliefs that I grew up with?

Every so often, I slip away from the practice of the Dharma and start to move back towards the faith that I grew up with, which I no longer believe and have a lot of issues and doubts with. This is constantly becoming an obstacle for me in my daily Buddhist practice and I'm just wondering, has anyo...
by Queequeg
Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

I merely pointed out to you that your idea that Zhiyi presents some uber profound teaching about the dharmadhātu was just a standard Mahāyāna presentation about the dharmadhātu since we both agree there are no phenomena not included within the dharmadhātu. Your contention that all phenomena are inc...
by Queequeg
Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:21 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

"Three thousand worlds in one moment of mind" is just a conventional formulation: it is incapable of withstanding analysis. Not even buddhahood can withstand analysis. So how could "three thousand worlds in one moment of mind" withstand ultimate analysis? What is even slightly profound about talkin...
by Queequeg
Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:05 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

We're in the Mahayana sub, not the East Asian sub. Therefore... How are the innovations (read: errors, obfuscations, and mythmakings) that Zhiyi introduces into Mahayana discourse more warranted than, say, mainstream Indian Mahayana? TienTai isn't authoritative here, or as authoritative as the Indi...
by Queequeg
Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:38 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

I understood the point you were trying to make. But it is not a deep point. Realizing the emptiness of one thing is the realization of the emptiness of all things. As for your second point, what Buddhanature? Is it something that truly exists? Or is it a conventional truth, a way of talking about s...
by Queequeg
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:50 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

It is trivial, and already explicitly mentioned by Nagarjun, to paraphrase, the the nature of the Tathagata is the nature of everything, as the Tathagata has no nature, nothing has a nature. And, for those whom emptiness is possible, everything is possible. As for every moment of mind being ripe wi...
by Queequeg
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:17 am
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

What needs to be taken into account in the Tiantai context particularly is that any particular dharma is understood to be the dharmadhatu, organized, so to speak around the particular. I think this is a uniquely Tiantai point - from the ordinary Mahayana perspective this meaning will not be apparen...
by Queequeg
Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:02 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

I can see the shortcomings in "absolute". What would be a simple way to translate dharmadhatu for non-Buddhist specialist? Just me, but I would probably stick with something simple like "the realm of experience" (or what Malcolm suggested) rather than fabricating the concept of The Absolute. I mean...
by Queequeg
Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:20 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

Note where that passage is quoted from. Its a Western oriented philosophy reference. What significance would dharmadhatu have to a Western philosopher? I can see the shortcomings in "absolute". What would be a simple way to translate dharmadhatu for non-Buddhist specialist? Literally the term means...
by Queequeg
Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:15 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

Agree, it's selective quotation + poetic license = nonsense. But what really annoys me is that he doesn't provide a reference so that I can read the original in context. You would expect better from a Stanford professor. U. Chicago. It is a quote from on online Philosophy resource. Often those arti...
by Queequeg
Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:03 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

No, he should eliminate this statement: "The Absolute, the whole of reality, is one and eternal, always the same and omnipresent." This is a completely nonbuddhist POV. There is no "absolute," "no whole of reality," no "one," and there is nothing that is eternal. "...each of these three—sense organ...
by Queequeg
Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:03 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

I'm no Chinese translator, but i'm not even sure how they get that translation from 法界對法界起法界 If I were to take a stab at it: the Dharma realm facing the Dharma realm awakens to the Dharma realm. Agree, it's selective quotation + poetic license = nonsense. But what really annoys me is that he doesn'...
by Queequeg
Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:58 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

https://jaygarfield.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/garfield_reply_to_ziporyn.pdf Yeah, those guys don't get it. What I get from that is, Ziporyn should probably try and work with another word besides "identify". He goes and coins a few odd terms - local coherence, global incoherence, for instance. No,...
by Queequeg
Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:56 pm
Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
Topic: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?
Replies: 90
Views: 1548

Re: Lotus Vs wisdom Vs flower garland sutra worldview?

This is how Swanson translates that phrase - bolded below, along with the context of this section: It is also said [in the introduction to the Mo-ho chih-kuan], “there is not a single color or scent that is not the Middle Way.” This is stated from the perspective of the Middle Way, but [ultimately] ...

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