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by White Lotus
Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:27 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

I agree theoretically. I guess it is therefore not overwhelming. I like this idea that once non duality has been realised suffering becomes bearable. to me the whole root of non duality is in absence of self. if I still experience a personal self I have not entered into non duality. non duality is ...
by White Lotus
Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:09 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

Muni, I think we are love non duality too much. it is a judgement, a view, a concept. if I say it is neither,nor. either, or, both and; I am falling into judgement. non duality says neither nor, or it says 'not'. this is judgement (vikalpa, prapanca). non duality is a way of judging, so is duality. ...
by White Lotus
Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

one of these days im going to realise that I just don't know what I am talking about and then I will have realised something valuable! :tongue:
by White Lotus
Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:06 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

Thank you Muni and Grigoris, by the way I like the hairstyle! given a month or two my hair won't be any different! :rolleye: As long as you have the five skandha there will be a sense of self. I would say that as long as I have a body there will be a notion of self, not necessary a feeling of self. ...
by White Lotus
Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:38 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

Yes. Grasping feelings-thoughts => self arises => thereby other arise => clinging = suffering. How you would say, Tom? I have thought about this formula and it seems to be very powerful. it is from grasping thoughts and feelings that ultimately there is suffering. however, it seems that pain can be...
by White Lotus
Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:50 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

 suffering, what does it mean, if anything and how does it relate to non dual awareness. I have been told that to overcome all suffering I need to forget myself. Yes. Grasping feelings-thoughts => self arises => thereby other arise => clinging = suffering. How you would say, Tom? yes, that sounds r...
by White Lotus
Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:35 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

Dear Muni,  it seems to me that in non duality there is no recognition of suffering - non suffering, these are just judgments/fabrications. but is that realistic? I am not sure to have understood this question. In any case in Bodhicitta suffering is recognized, if not there would be no guidance pos...
by White Lotus
Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:40 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

Dear Muni, I am thinking about suffering. suffering-comfort. apparent opposites that depend on the existence-non existence dream. suffering - non suffering is part of the dream. it seems that in non dual awareness there is not suffering - non suffering. these words are a fabrication, and yet sometim...
by White Lotus
Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

All is awaken and even the dreaming suffering we experience is just the play of it, Tom? yes, in a way there is no suffering, except in a dream and happening to no one. just a tragedy on the stage... all fun! having broken the circle, I suppose that it must be that way. there has been a refinement ...
by White Lotus
Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

Dear Muni, if we say that ignorance is knowledge then we are using non duality in its sense of oneness. or you could say its sense of zeroness (unknowing - zero known). if we say things are not ignorance - knowledge then we have broken the circle, beyond knowledge and ignorance. neither known nor un...
by White Lotus
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:51 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

Dear Muni, The circle of awareness-nonawareness cannot be broken by proving-explaining what cannot be explained. interesting that you describe awareness-non awareness as a circle! The dream is demonstrating opposing existence-nonexistence. being-non being are a dream. is and isn't are a dream, but w...
by White Lotus
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:32 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

Muni, you sometimes talk about 'nature', and True Nature. I think you mean by these two words the same thing. these days I don't see an objective nature. the nearest I come to nature is 'awareness'. though I neither see emptiness-form nor don't see it I am looking for a nature and I'm not sure I can...
by White Lotus
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

Zero is an egg, it represents true self. One is an iron bar, it also represents true self. zero is one, one is zero. its when true self is seen within that it can be cracked by itself. so that it no longer is. zero - one is a duality that is inseperable. break out of the circle, emerge from the womb...
by White Lotus
Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:16 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

Not "unknowing" . yes, not unknowing (when we talk about ultimates). that would be a fabrication. my understanding is limited. ha ha ha! but also, not knowing! when professor Suzuki said knowing is ignorance, he implied that unknowing is true knowledge. however... fabrications, I don't know that I ...
by White Lotus
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:06 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

Rinchen... a poem for you:

trust in yourself, open your heart... have a laugh.
its all just a game. just a joke, dancing.
watch the movie. come to an understanding and then forget it all.
nice!

love, Tom x

ps. you are going to need a good sense of humour! we all do. :anjali:
by White Lotus
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:02 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

While even *Buddha* could/did not create or change true nature, makes clear that the idea there is "one" ( Atman) going to do that is the very distraction itself, which is clouding only. ultimately speaking everything we say is a playful distraction. we play with the 'one', Atman, big play, but sti...
by White Lotus
Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:37 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

are you nothing-everything? surely 'what' is not 'who', what is 'awareness'. awareness, not nothing. sorry to be so bossy! ultimately awareness is not nothing, nor Is it anything other than awareness. it is not zero, it is not one, it is not two etc. and yet relatively speaking awareness is zero, o...
by White Lotus
Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:18 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

Dear Muni, we say that wisdom-compassion is inseperable, but can we say that duality-non duality is inseperable? are you nothing-everything? surely 'what' is not 'who', what is 'awareness'. awareness, not nothing. sorry to be so bossy! then again these are only words, fabrications, judgements. but w...
by White Lotus
Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:15 am
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

Dear Simon and Muni, nice posts, thank you! I appreciate you both. our library computer is a bit dickey at the moment, but I should be able to print out your post Muni and ponder it. so glad you have non dual awareness Muni!

dear friends, Tom x :anjali:
by White Lotus
Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: Dharma in Everyday Life
Topic: Existence
Replies: 266
Views: 16474

Re: Existence

simplifying a little: in non dual awareness there is no self to be eternal. also there seems to my limited mind to be no kind of "experience" in a strange kind of way. I think we could all be deceiving ourselves or others. there is a need for sensible critique and scrutiny. One of my brothers is a b...

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